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Old 01-17-2017, 01:47 PM
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30-06 is the caliber of ammunition fired by the Springfield rifle carried by the US military in WWI and the early days of WWII, and was also used in the M1 Garand carried in WWII and Korea. It remains an enduringly popular rifle cartridge used for deer hunting and other large game in the Lower 48 states of the US. Most firearms owners back home in Missouri that I knew would have a .22LR plinking/small varmint rifle, a 12 gauge shotgun and a .30-06, if nothing else.

It's not as popular a cartridge up here in Alaska, because if you should surprise a bear or need to shoot a moose, there are better, more powerful cartridges for those tasks than the .30-06. But there are still a lot of them up here.

As for the $700, I imagine that particular sum was chosen mainly for its meter, which becomes more apparent when you write out all the numbers in the rhyme:

"Ain't too much that a man can't fix,
With seven hundred dollars and a thirty-ought six."

The joke is that you can "fix" anything with enough money and a powerful rifle.

It's an example of rural humor that I've never encountered before, but it reminds me of the sense of humor of some of the guys my father used to go coyote-hunting with back in the Missouri-Kansas border country.

Hope that makes sense.


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dunno much about guns, but those lines seem to me to be straight out of a Steve Earle song.

If they ain't they might soon be in a Silly M song!
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Old 01-17-2017, 03:18 PM
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dunno much about guns, but those lines seem to me to be straight out of a Steve Earle song.

If they ain't they might soon be in a Silly M song!
Lindy Cooper Wisdom wrote the poem from which these lines are taken.

"Grandpa's Lesson"

Pappy took to drinkin' back when I was barely three.
Ma got pretty quiet. She was frettin', you could see.
So I was sent to Grandpa and he raised me up real good.
He taught me what I oughta and he taught me what I should.
I learned a heap 'o lessons from the yarns he liked to tell.
There's one I won't forget because I learned it 'speshly well.
"There jist ain't many folk who live a peaceful, carefree life.
Along with all the good times there'll be lotsa grief and strife.
But ain't many troubles that a man cain't fix
With seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six."
Grandpa courted Grandma near the town of old Cheyenne.
Her daddy was cantankerous - a very greedy man.
He wouldn't give permission for a fancy wedding day
'Til grandpa paid a dowry--biggest ever people say.
Her daddy softened up when Grandpa said that he could fix
Him up with seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six.
Grandpa herded cattle down around Jalisco way.
Ended up behind some iron bars one dusty day.
Seems the local jefe craved my Grandpa's pinto mare.
Grandpa wouldn't sell her so he lit on out of there.
Didn't take much doin' 'cept a couple special tricks
plus seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six.
Then there was that Faro game near San Francisco say.
Grandpa's cards was smokin' hot and he took all one day.
He woke up nearly naked in a ditch next early morn'.
With nothin' but his flannel shirt, and it was ripped and torn.
Those others were professionals and they don't play for kicks.
He lost seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six.
He begged some woolen trousers off the local storekeep there
Who loaned him both a pony and a rifle on a dare.
He caught those thievin' cardsharks at another Faro game.
He got back all his property and also his good name.
He left one bleedin' badly and another mostly lame.
My grandpa's trusty rifle shoots just where you choose to aim.
Grandpa's slowin' down a bit and just the other night
He handed me his rifle and a box sealed up real tight.
He fixed me with them pale grey eyes and this is what he said,
"You're awful young but steady too and I will soon be dead.
I'll bet this here old rifle and this honest money too
Will come in mighty handy just as readily for you.
There jist ain't many folk who lead a carefree, peaceful life.
Along with times of happiness, there's always woe and strife.
But ... aint many troubles that a man cain't fix
with seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six."
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Love It ! Thank you so much !
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Old 01-17-2017, 08:04 PM
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Thanks for sharing that murrmac123, something in the back of my mind thought it might have been part of a larger work, but it wasn't anything that I'd come across before.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:04 PM
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That is pretty cool. I was of the opinion it could not be an "old saying" for two reasons. The first is the 30-06 round did not come into wide use until WWI. The second is I know all the old sayings and I ain't heard this 'un...
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:59 PM
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Some people have no pride in their craftsmanship, or no ability to recognize their limitations. Or something....

I don't charge extra if you try to fix it first, but having to undo the bad work and then re-do it properly, it usually works out to quite a bit extra anyway. I do charge extra if you want to watch or help...

I worked on my own deer rifle once. I didn't like the trigger pull and there were these three screws you could adjust. So I did... and then I was way out in the mountains, chambered a round and the rifle fired without pulling the trigger (thank God I pay strict attention to muzzle direction so nobody got shot). I was at least smart enough to jot down how much I'd turned each screw so I put them back and the gun was at least safe to use for the rest of the trip. I took it to a gunsmith for a proper trigger set-up and I no longer work on guns at all. The penalty for screwing up is too steep.

My wife has a cousin who was cleaning a shotgun indoors and it went off, taking down a shelf and moose head hanging on the wall.

He said no one had to tell him how stupid that was ...lucky, too.
Lucky we could laugh at it.
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Old 06-04-2019, 04:08 PM
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One of my favorite quotes of all times is, "... there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know."

Plus one to anyone who can identify the author
That's commonly referenced in engineering as the Don't Know Squared problem.
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