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Old 01-12-2016, 11:25 AM
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Post Does same consonant/vowel sound in lyrics associate with same notes/chords in songs?

Looking at the C major scale,
C D E F G A B C
Western: Do Re Mi Fa Sol La Ti Do
Eastern: Sa Re(ri) Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni Sa

How do they associate with lyrics?
What I meant, when you look at certain words in the lyrics, does that tell what chord/note it should have there?
For example, lots of songs have 'love', 'rocking', 'long', 'home', 'brown' etc... words.
Do they all play around the same notes/chords?
Or it entirely depends upon the music/rhythm?
Can the same lyrics/song be played in entirely different chords/notes?

Let's say, we only have lyrics and there is no song to listen to yet.
How is that played from different guitarists?
If lyrics give hints on notes/chords, they may play it similarly. Hmm...

Thoughts?
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:14 PM
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Looking at the C major scale,
C D E F G A B C
Western: Do Re Mi Fa Sol La Ti Do
Eastern: Sa Re(ri) Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni Sa

How do they associate with lyrics?
They don't.
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What I meant, when you look at certain words in the lyrics, does that tell what chord/note it should have there?
No.
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For example, lots of songs have 'love', 'rocking', 'long', 'home', 'brown' etc... words.
Do they all play around the same notes/chords?
No.
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Originally Posted by Mystery123 View Post
Or it entirely depends upon the music/rhythm?
what does?
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Can the same lyrics/song be played in entirely different chords/notes?
Yes.
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Let's say, we only have lyrics and there is no song to listen to yet.
How is that played from different guitarists?
However they like. It would mean they would then be finishing the composition by writing the melody and chords.
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If lyrics give hints on notes/chords, they may play it similarly. Hmm...
Well, lyrics obviously have themes and moods, so the music would usually be written to suit those moods. The meanings of the words, not the sounds of the words. That's because the sound of a word (usually) has nothing to do with its meaning.
I.e., the meanings we associate with certain musical sounds (which are vague and largely subjective) would usually be matched to the meanings (much more objective) of the lyrics. Good composers will do that to the best of their ability.
A tender love song would not normally be written to a furious punk rhythm (although it might).
An angry rebel song about smashing the state would not normally be written as a gentle ballad (although it might).
But that's totally unrelated to the actual syllables themselves.

There is perhaps one way in which the sounds of words can have a musical impact - but that would be consonants, not vowels. Hard consonants like T, D, P, B, etc, are percussive, so could form rhythms. In general, good songwriters do try to make words feel good rhythmically. so the natural accents of speech are reflected in the natural accents in the music; and I guess clever songwriters could compose lyrics in such a way that they provide rhythmic patterns of consonants.
Those kind of consonants, of course, are not pitched, so have no impact on melody or harmony.
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:59 PM
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Thanks JonPR.
So basically, style and melody is the key.
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