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Old 11-28-2018, 09:30 PM
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Actually, it is panned. This one is panned automatically by selecting UR44 Mix 1 Left and Right. So when I listen to Rode Left on S (solo), it comes only to my left ear. The same with Rode Right.


On this picture is automatic panning disabled, so I can pan them manually, hard L and hard R. In both cases the track is panned and the sound is the same.



So it should be in stereo.
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:25 PM
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I think what he did was to record to 2 stereo tracks, the left input to one and the right input to the other. I can only assume that neither track will allow panning.
Looks like one stereo track. When you magnify the image below you can see that the R and L waves forms are different. So it was recorded stereo but was panned incorrectly subsequently before making it to an exported wave file. So if it was recorded in stereo correctly then when the panning it set correctly (hard right and hard left) it should export as stereo.

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Old 11-28-2018, 10:39 PM
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Actually, it is panned. This one is panned automatically by selecting UR44 Mix 1 Left and Right. So when I listen to Rode Left on S (solo), it comes only to my left ear. The same with Rode Right.


On this picture is automatic panning disabled, so I can pan them manually, hard L and hard R. In both cases the track is panned and the sound is the same.



So it should be in stereo.
Try this:

Start a new project - an empty project not based on a template.
Up at the top, click on project, add track and select audio track; mono.
There will now be one audio track in the project window. Right click on it and select "duplicate from the drop down menu.
Assign one track to In 1 and slide the panner all the way to the left and another to In 2, sliding the panner all the way to the right and then assign both of them to Stereo Out.

Plug in a mic to the left input of your interface and another to the right input.
Record whatever you want.

The other guys here are advising you to simply record to one stereo track and that is an easier way to achieve a similar result as what I've just led you through. But I think you need to understand panning mono tracks first. The nice thing about what I'm having you do here is you can balance the output volume with the fader on each track to get them even where if you record a stereo track that requires getting input and gain to the mics perfect up front.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:26 PM
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The nice thing about what I'm having you do here is you can balance the output volume with the fader on each track to get them even where if you record a stereo track that requires getting input and gain to the mics perfect up front.
No problem balancing R and L volumes in a stereo track. I do that on most every recording. It is a simple thing that DAW native utilities can do as well as plugins (many free).
Same thing for adjustments in R or L time delay. Therefore I feel rather free to move around mike positions mainly focusing on the tone I want rather than other things.
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I think what he did was to record to 2 stereo tracks, the left input to one and the right input to the other. I can only assume that neither track will allow panning.
Seems right! In my view too you must record both, left and right track, in mono and than go to your mixer and pan hard left and right.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:53 AM
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No problem balancing R and L volumes in a stereo track. I do that on most every recording. It is a simple thing that DAW native utilities can do as well as plugins (many free).
Same thing for adjustments in R or L time delay. Therefore I feel rather free to move around mike positions mainly focusing on the tone I want rather than other things.
That's new to me. What plugins do you use to do those things? I use Cubase and had no idea there was something in there that would do what you're suggesting.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:01 AM
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That's new to me. What plugins do you use to do those things? I use Cubase and had no idea there was something in there that would do what you're suggesting.

Thanks for your help.

Various plugins I have can work on the R or L stereo track individually, however for volume balancing and changes in R or L delay I usually use a free plugin from Voxengo
called Sound Delay. Did I mention "free".

On the interface shown below to do this click on the Routing button and select Dual Mono

https://www.voxengo.com/product/sounddelay/features/


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Old 11-29-2018, 11:08 AM
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Try this:

Start a new project - an empty project not based on a template.
Up at the top, click on project, add track and select audio track; mono.
There will now be one audio track in the project window. Right click on it and select "duplicate from the drop down menu.
Assign one track to In 1 and slide the panner all the way to the left and another to In 2, sliding the panner all the way to the right and then assign both of them to Stereo Out.

Plug in a mic to the left input of your interface and another to the right input.
Record whatever you want.
Ok, I did as you said. An empty project / Audio track - mono / Duplitaced and panned each one to L and Right. Here is the result and the image. Everything without any effects or EQ.

https://soundcloud.com/luk-leng-l/panned-l-r/s-zxC9d



And here is the same, except I choosed Audio track Stereo instead of mono.

https://soundcloud.com/luk-leng-l/on...-track/s-u7nWu



However, maybe I should be a little far for the microphones, sounds a little bit agressive to me.
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Ok, I did as you said. An empty project / Audio track - mono / Duplitaced and panned each one to L and Right. Here is the result and the image. Everything without any effects or EQ.
Hooray, you now have a stereo recording:


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Old 11-29-2018, 12:20 PM
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Thank you! Just curious, do you think, it's all because of that ''Stereo Out''? It seems, like it always has been panned, but never with that ''Stereo Out'' button.
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Thank you! Just curious, do you think, it's all because of that ''Stereo Out''? It seems, like it always has been panned, but never with that ''Stereo Out'' button.
Both of the last two recording came out stereo. So?
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Old 11-29-2018, 01:15 PM
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You're right. Anyway, thank you all for your comments, tips and advices. It was really helpful and pushed me foward. Now I know more information about recording, mic positions, room tips etc, where I wasn't able to find such a tips online. I'll keep trying and learning my best. I also hope, this topic can help to other users, who might have a similar problem as I did.
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Hello guys,

since we finished a discussion about my recording problem, now I'm wondering about another issue. I don't want to create new topic for it, so let me write it down in this topic.

Thanks to your help, I understand recording fingerstyle guitar better. Now I do all my records just with two mics as match pair stereo (got new Rodes NT5). I also have pick-up system L.R. Baggs Anthem with inside mic + piezo. I'm quite satisfied with the sound, experimenting with positions, room etc. But I want to add a little more "fullnes" and another sound from my Anthem, which alone sound just great.

You know, I really admire players like Luca Stricagnoli, Mike Dawes, Marcin Patrzalek, Alexander Misko, Estas Tonne etc. Obviously, not just for their skills, but I also love their sound. They have various pick-up systems in their guitars, such as magnetic pick-up, mics and piezo.

According to their studio recordings, I gues, that's combination of microphone, magnetic pick-up and piezo. I wouldn't say, the sound is just from one source (mic).

A few link, so you can hear, what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUarhwho0f8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2DghZESxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qH_GyUONpY

So now I have two mics, that is the basic and I want to add piezzo or inside mic from my Anthem system to the mix. My question is: Do you have any tips or ides, how to mix it together? I mean microphones are solved, 2 mics, to L and R, clear stereo, but what about the piezo? Do it L 50 and R50 or? Or do it also L and R, but with lower volume?

And how these guys (or their mixing masters probably) mix songs with so many tracks and sound sources? I'm really curious, how this works.

Thank you so much!
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