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Old 04-29-2019, 09:10 PM
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Is anyone familiar with this particular seagull? I have only seen one YouTube demo. Iím curious about it and how it compares to the classic S6 in sound and feel. From the description I know it has a gloss spruce top instead of the standard cedar. Any owners here or anyone try one before?
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:11 PM
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Default ask the manufacturer

The manufacturer would know whether there is any difference besides the finish. I've had good results by sending them an e-mail.
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:39 PM
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Is anyone familiar with this particular seagull? I have only seen one YouTube demo. Iím curious about it and how it compares to the classic S6 in sound and feel. From the description I know it has a gloss spruce top instead of the standard cedar. Any owners here or anyone try one before?

Thanks!
I think what you are asking is specs and especially sound differences between it and the Classic S6.

I have one of these. I like it a lot. That said, I did a lot of personalizing of it.

OK, body shape? The same. Neck, Slim version, Short Scale( the Classic is the same). Older versions had the wider 1.8 nut width. The top is spruce. It is brighter but spruce is more durable than Cedar.

It's cherry sides and back. Spruce top. High gloss top. 1.72 nut width. Short scale.

Here is what I did to suit me.

Colosi bone saddle. (I find Tusk to be harsh.)
African Blackwood bridge pins. Heavy and dense. I think they smooth out the tone, adds a bit of bottom.
I replaced the stock tuners with Gotoh SG 301 18:1. Nothing wrong with the stock tuners. I just like the 18:1 tuners better and I had them.

Finally, GHS Vintage Bronze strings. OR Martin Retros OR Ernie Ball Aluminum Bronze.

I like to make up my own True Mediums with the GHS. Martin has their own version.

Then play it a lot. Play it in.

I think Seagulls of all flavors are great guitars.

I hope this helps.
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:55 PM
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I don't see that model on their website, but their website isn't always accurate, anyway. The spruce top is going to be brighter than their traditional cedar. The other thing to check on would be the nut width. The classic S6 has a 1.80" nut width (string spacing is same as most 1.75" guitars), but they also make models with a more narrow 1.72" nut width. Also, depending on the year, they've changed up their fretboard material, so you could get Rosewood, Richlite, or some other material.

I'd contact the dealer, if they have it in stock. Otherwise, drop an email to Michel at Seagull. He's super responsive to inquiries.
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Old 04-29-2019, 10:34 PM
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I think what you are asking is specs and especially sound differences between it and the Classic S6.

I have one of these. I like it a lot. That said, I did a lot of personalizing of it.

OK, body shape? The same. Neck, Slim version, Short Scale( the Classic is the same). Older versions had the wider 1.8 nut width. The top is spruce. It is brighter but spruce is more durable than Cedar.

It's cherry sides and back. Spruce top. High gloss top. 1.72 nut width. Short scale.

Here is what I did to suit me.

Colosi bone saddle. (I find Tusk to be harsh.)
African Blackwood bridge pins. Heavy and dense. I think they smooth out the tone, adds a bit of bottom.
I replaced the stock tuners with Gotoh SG 301 18:1. Nothing wrong with the stock tuners. I just like the 18:1 tuners better and I had them.

Finally, GHS Vintage Bronze strings. OR Martin Retros OR Ernie Ball Aluminum Bronze.

I like to make up my own True Mediums with the GHS. Martin has their own version.

Then play it a lot. Play it in.

I think Seagulls of all flavors are great guitars.

I hope this helps.
I love the sunburst finish. Reminds me of a J-45. I wonder if they were after some version of that? Do you know what strings and gauge they use as standard? Iím leaning towards this model because it has electronics. What do you think of the system? I like the fact that it is spruce giving it a brighter sound. The cedar is nice but just a tad warmer than I prefer. But I love the feel of seagulls in the hands. At least the ones Iíve tried.
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I don't see that model on their website, but their website isn't always accurate, anyway. The spruce top is going to be brighter than their traditional cedar. The other thing to check on would be the nut width. The classic S6 has a 1.80" nut width (string spacing is same as most 1.75" guitars), but they also make models with a more narrow 1.72" nut width. Also, depending on the year, they've changed up their fretboard material, so you could get Rosewood, Richlite, or some other material.

I'd contact the dealer, if they have it in stock. Otherwise, drop an email to Michel at Seagull. He's super responsive to inquiries.
I emailed them hoping for more info. I wonder how long they made this model? I like that itís a spruce top. Iíve played the classic s6 so Iím really curious how the sound differs. GC is bringing in one for me.
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I love the sunburst finish. Reminds me of a J-45. I wonder if they were after some version of that? Do you know what strings and gauge they use as standard? Iím leaning towards this model because it has electronics. What do you think of the system? I like the fact that it is spruce giving it a brighter sound. The cedar is nice but just a tad warmer than I prefer. But I love the feel of seagulls in the hands. At least the ones Iíve tried.
I can't help you on the electronics as mine has none. It comes standard with Godin's own strings. Light gauge. The top is very sturdy. Adirondack braces. It will handle True Mediums or mediums.
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I've only heard one and it was a friends. I had a cedar S6 at the time, and liked mine a lot better. It was night and day.

But, that was the only one I've ever heard. Maybe my friend had a dud.
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The spruce topped versions take quite a bit longer to play in. You have to be more patient with them than cedar.

FYI... This model has been discontinued. That said, there are still many around, used and new.
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The spruce topped versions take quite a bit longer to play in. You have to be more patient with them than cedar.

FYI... This model has been discontinued. That said, there are still many around, used and new.
I suppose that would be true with most spruce tops. Cedar is a softer wood and needs less breaking in versus spruce.
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I've only heard one and it was a friends. I had a cedar S6 at the time, and liked mine a lot better. It was night and day.

But, that was the only one I've ever heard. Maybe my friend had a dud.
I can understand that. Especially when you had a cedar S6. Apples and oranges I suppose when trying to compare the same guitar with different wood tops.
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Old 04-30-2019, 10:15 AM
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My only dreadnaught is a 23 year old s6 Spruce.

They're a great sounding guitar, and yeah, it does get better the more you play it. These sunburst models looked great, I'd say take a chance on it.

And as for the Gibson comparison, yeah, I do think the s6 Spruce gets quite into the territory of a Gibson slope shouldered dread, especially with well played in strings.
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I can understand that. Especially when you had a cedar S6. Apples and oranges I suppose when trying to compare the same guitar with different wood tops.
It wasn't just that. The majority of my guitars are spruce topped, so I was very familiar what they sound like. His guitar just sounded dead to me.

But, like I said, it's one data point.
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It wasn't just that. The majority of my guitars are spruce topped, so I was very familiar what they sound like. His guitar just sounded dead to me.

But, like I said, it's one data point.
True. I will see once they get it in for me to try. I have tried a few high end Martins before and some of them sounded dead to me also. I guess it just depends on the guitar. Iím hoping this one doesnít sound dead as paying $500 for well built guitar is appealing.
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Old 04-30-2019, 04:21 PM
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Is anyone familiar with this particular seagull? I have only seen one YouTube demo. Iím curious about it and how it compares to the classic S6 in sound and feel. From the description I know it has a gloss spruce top instead of the standard cedar. Any owners here or anyone try one before?
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my first guitar was an S6Folk it was cedar . truly a great guitar. Seagulls are under rated
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