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Yes, gut definitely intrigues me but I have to admit to being put of by the price! I also like to be able to play at 415hz up to 440hz depending on the piece. I am sure I will give them a try at some point..
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Lifetime of Thomastik/Pearce 116 strings?
These sound interesting, but pricey. How long do they last compared to more ordinary (and cheaper) classical strings?
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You wouldn’t happen to have any recording samples by any chance? I would love to hear how these strings sound, and the music at the low tuning you use. Doesn’t have to be anything elaborate!
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The bases are unbelievably amazing. I would highly recommend just buying Pyramid gut bases, you could use nylon trebles just to try the bases before committing to gut trebles. The bases can be special ordered from Strings by mail...they're super to deal with. You could buy a full set ( $100 ) but I didn't like the trebles ( you might )....Gamut has better trebles for classical IMO. I have thicker strings because my tuning is so low....my 1st string is sheep gut, but the 2nd and 3rd are what's called Pistoy gut. No audio samples...but I compose all of my music. I understand music theory quite well. |
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Anyone use Ernie Ball Earthwood strings? Just curious about em
Edit: Sorry, I didn't realise this was in Classical Guitar. I just saw the topic in Today on the AGF
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I generally like D'Addario EJ46 nylons on my Cervantes, but I recently tried the Dynacore Titanium Trebles EJ46TT. I really liked the treble tone, which has a really nice bright snap to it. The trebles stayed at pitch after a few days (the standard EJ46 nylons can take up to a week) and the Dynacore bases lasted for about 6 months compared to about a month for EJ46s (at an hour per day play everyday). I have an EJ46 nylon three pack I have to use up but I think I will return to the TTs when the nylons are done.
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Good luck with these. I await the update. Adam |
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I'm interested in hearing how it goes with gut, too. I tried them a couple of times- one set from LaBella, the other brand I don't remember- but quickly
made a mess of the first string in both cases (I was using nails, and thought they were well-manicured at the time). The sound was nice while it lasted, especially (hah!) the first string.. |
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I have my expectations firmly in check with regards durability. I’ll pair them with some Aquila Seta silk basses which are apparently great but also fragile. Honestly, I don’t think they will represent a continued option (although the price of the gut from Bow is very reasonable if you buy longer lengths) and more than likely I’ll revert to Alabastro’s which I like very much.
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>So they arrived...
Very efficient and helpful service from Bow - super impressed. < Cool. Interested in hearing about your experience w/ gut- it's been a long time since I tried them. Also, the mention of Alabastro trebles reminded me that I have briefly-used set here; maybe I'll put them on again in the morning, just for fun. |
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I may take the Alabastro's off and keep them aside in order to get a decent comparison.
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I'm not an authority on gut but I've done my research. We can't lump all gut in the same category, just like we can't lump all guitars the same way. There are many kinds of gut weaved and twisted in many different ways.
I think if someone plays 440A with gut trebles for instance, the gut diameter will have to be thin to keep the tension within reason, but the sound may be thin. This gut will normally be made from Steer Serosa the outer and tough part of the intestine. It's fibers will normally be twisted around 15 degrees to keep it stronger for the higher tension, but that also means it's less compliant. Other types of gut or even Steer Serosa can be made with a higher twist ratio. The fibers can be wrapped at 45 degrees or more making the string much more compliant and imo musical, but a lower overall tension is recommended. It's important to know what gut you have, the twist ratio, and the exact diameter, so you can start to gain knowledge and insight as you experiment. I have custom trebles from Gamut, not the ones they sell for classical, but I did start there for a baseline. They are good trebles with three different diameters so you can choose which ones you like. I went beyond that.... 1st string is .68mm Sheep gut 2nd .88mm Pistoy gut 3rd 1.04mm Pistoy gut 4th .032 silver plated on gut ( Pyramid ) 5th .038 silver plated on gut ( Pyramid ) 6th .048 silver plated on gut ( Pyramid ) I use a much lower tuning that's why my trebles are thicker, but my bases are standard that Pyramid sells, they work extremely well for me. I want to add that my total tension is only 54 pounds. That may seem ridiculously low, but not for my guitar. I have all the volume I could want, and it just sings and sings. I've used Alabastro trebles and like them, but imo they are nothing like gut. Here is an extremely useful calculator I've used to understand what my treble tensions are. You can play with what A pitch you want, then play with the other variables....it's easy to figure out. It was extremely helpful in understanding exactly what tension is on each treble string. http://www.gamutstrings.com/calculators/calculator.htm Last edited by xzy; 04-11-2021 at 07:31 AM. |
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I cannot find out what type of gut these strings are - Bow's website is not specific. I have 0.62 / 0.8 / 1mm diameters for my top 3. I tend to play at either A:415 or A:432 so will try these at both.
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