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Old 09-15-2023, 08:31 PM
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For builders....I've noticed 7 string scales are the same 25.5 inches. Would it be possible w/o major alterations to convert a cheap 12 string into a seven ? Maybe the tuners can be used as is, and the only mod would be to the bridge pin holes and the saddle ? Fill in and redrill the bridge pin holes and file a saddle ...instant 7 string acoustic. Am I crazy ? then how about making an 8 string but with a high A instead of the lowest fsharp. Would the tension be less ? O wait...I bet this has already been done a 100times. Just thinking outloud.thanks
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While your idea could surely be done, 12 strings are far too over built to make much of a 7 string.

I didn't see you mention it, but if I made a 7 string I would absolutely want to use MultiScale rather than a single scale.
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:45 PM
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While your idea could surely be done, 12 strings are far too over built to make much of a 7 string.

I didn't see you mention it, but if I made a 7 string I would absolutely want to use MultiScale rather than a single scale.
I see 7 string that are straight scale. I believe it's gonna be kinda of hard to find a cheap 12 that got fanned frets. In fact....those don't exist. I guess if you're building from scratch ? And being overbuilt is kinda of the point...for that other heaviest string? A cheap 12 can be had for 100bucks.
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Old 09-15-2023, 10:28 PM
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All good ideas have been taken....
https://www.sevenstring.org/threads/...ld-mod.230948/

https://www.instructables.com/Turnin...ring-Guitar-M/
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Old 09-15-2023, 11:39 PM
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And being overbuilt is kinda of the point....
I do not want to speak for Mr. Sexauer as he's one of the best best luthiers alive in my opinion. But the point i believe he was making is that a 12 string converted to a 7 will not be a good sounding instrument. If your priorities have nothing to do with responsiveness and tone quality than I think you have a wonderful idea.
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It could certainly work to have an instrument to practice and see if you like playing a 7 string. Also if you plan on playing with a pickup/amp you can adjust tone and volume.

You just gave me and idea. I have a salvaged 12 string bolt on neck from a collapsed Epiphone acoustic. Could make a 7 string solid electric with it or add a heel and build a conventional acoustic body.
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Old 09-16-2023, 09:55 AM
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It could certainly work to have an instrument to practice and see if you like playing a 7 string. Also if you plan on playing with a pickup/amp you can adjust tone and volume.

You just gave me and idea. I have a salvaged 12 string bolt on neck from a collapsed Epiphone acoustic. Could make a 7 string solid electric with it or add a heel and build a conventional acoustic body.
there ya go. I'd go for the electric. Of course it's not gonna be a 7 string lutheir built three thousand dollar guitar. Better keep your expectations lower...to conform to expectations !
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Old 09-16-2023, 09:58 AM
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I do not want to speak for Mr. Sexauer as he's one of the best best luthiers alive in my opinion. But the point i believe he was making is that a 12 string converted to a 7 will not be a good sounding instrument. If your priorities have nothing to do with responsiveness and tone quality than I think you have a wonderful idea.
Did you see the link ? The guy did his in an afternoon....imagine what investing two afternoons could yield ?
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Old 09-17-2023, 12:18 AM
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Did you see the link ? The guy did his in an afternoon....imagine what investing two afternoons could yield ?
Two afternoons vbs. one? Someone who didn't know exactly what they were doing could do twice the damage.
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