Should I???

[gwlee7]

Originally Posted by jazzguy

So I went to GC and played a Blues Cube Hot that they had on the floor. Not the artist, but the same time lineage. Not a bad amp at all, but not in the same league as my PR. Crisis averted! Thanks for the reasonable and sane comments. My PR will not leave my house!

Pheww.

[rwmct]

To get rid of a PRRI for a Blues Cube would certainly be a rather, ah, unusual choice.

[muscmp]

Originally Posted by jazzguy

So I went to GC and played a Blues Cube Hot that they had on the floor. Not the artist, but the same time lineage. Not a bad amp at all, but not in the same league as my PR. Crisis averted! Thanks for the reasonable and sane comments. My PR will not leave my house!

get that strat out and fender it up!

play music!

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by Steve DeRosa

Keep the Princeton at all costs - one of electric guitardom's iconic tone machines, you'll kick yourself later if you get rid of it, and good luck finding another one like yours;

Great advice. I've got a Super Reverb I have really no need for anymore (used to gig with it in the seventies), but I'll never part with it.

Also, I've seen people above recommending modeling amps. I don't agree. I bought a Fender Champion 40 a short while back as a companion to the Super Reverb. At the time I was also thinking of a Fender modeling amp. Someone on here gave me some advice which made me decide on the Champion 40 immediately. He said (paraphrasing) "If you want to play with an amplifier, get the Champion. If you want to spend your time playing with a computer, get the modeling amp."

Nuff said, for me.

[Steve DeRosa]

Originally Posted by Jerry D

...I bought a Fender Champion 40 a short while back as a companion to my Super Reverb...

Bought a Frontman 212R about five years ago for the same reason: big power for big shows, Fender blackface clean in spades (I'm mostly a clean player anyway), serviceable if not great OD (sounds better with certain guitars than others), 30% lighter than the Super - and although it'll never have the same sweet tube mojo my back and my wife will both be happier for it...

[paulp1960]

Originally Posted by Jerry D

Great advice. I've got a Super Reverb I have really no need for anymore (used to gig with it in the seventies), but I'll never part with it.

Also, I've seen people above recommending modeling amps. I don't agree. I bought a Fender Champion 40 a short while back as a companion to the Super Reverb. At the time I was also thinking of a Fender modeling amp. Someone on here gave me some advice which made me decide on the Champion 40 immediately. He said (paraphrasing) "If you want to play with an amplifier, get the Champion. If you want to spend your time playing with a computer, get the modeling amp."

Nuff said, for me.

Fender Champ 40 is a modelling amp.

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by paulp1960

Fender Champ 40 is a modelling amp.

A Fender Mustang GT 40 is a modeling amp (Wi-Fi Capabilities, Bluetooth, Smartphone App, USB Connectivity, Stereo Power, and Onboard Looper). A Champion 40 is not a modeling amp, though it has a few settings to emulate other types of amps.

[paulp1960]

Originally Posted by Jerry D

A Fender Mustang GT 40 is a modeling amp (Wi-Fi Capabilities, Bluetooth, Smartphone App, USB Connectivity, Stereo Power, and Onboard Looper). A Champion 40 is not a modeling amp, though it has a few settings to emulate other types of amps.

Here is a quote from this Fender website:

https://shop.fender.com/en-GB/guitar....html?rl=en_US

"AMP MODELING
This amplifier features digital amplifier modeling encompassing a variety of amp types old and new, U.S. and U.K., and more. From classic Fender amp sounds to modern designs voiced for specific styles (i.e., metal), it’s just like having several amps in one."

[Ed-in-Ohio]

Originally Posted by Steve DeRosa

My thoughts:

• Keep the Princeton at all costs - one of electric guitardom's iconic tone machines, you'll kick yourself later if you get rid of it, and good luck finding another one like yours

...snip...

Totally agree. You already own one of the greatest bedroom Electric Blues amps ever made. Keep it.

To get the pushed amp tones at low volume levels you're looking for, I'd suggest picking up the Electro-Harmonix Soul Food. It is a fantastic boost/overdrive pedal, and by using different volume and drive settings you can get a remarkable range of pushed tube amp tones without rattling your windows. The combination of the PRRI and the Soul Food will sound incredible. I'd also add a reverb pedal if you're truly unhappy with the PRRI's verb.

I have tried and tried, with an open mind, to find a solid state solution to electric guitar amplification. Unfortunately, I think there is just no substitute for tube amps. The Roland Blues Cube Artist, the Boss Katana, and other high-end solid state amps are great...but they just are not a substitute for a great tube amp. Of course, YMMV.

[Paleolith54]

Originally Posted by Jerry D

A Fender Mustang GT 40 is a modeling amp (Wi-Fi Capabilities, Bluetooth, Smartphone App, USB Connectivity, Stereo Power, and Onboard Looper). A Champion 40 is not a modeling amp, though it has a few settings to emulate other types of amps.

You seem to be very confused about what a modeling amp is. None of the things you listed as constituents of "modeling" have anything to do with amp modeling The one you did mention (settings to emulate...) is actually the one that shows that it is a modeling amp.

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by paulp1960

Here is a quote from this Fender website:

https://shop.fender.com/en-GB/guitar....html?rl=en_US

"AMP MODELING
This amplifier features digital amplifier modeling encompassing a variety of amp types old and new, U.S. and U.K., and more. From classic Fender amp sounds to modern designs voiced for specific styles (i.e., metal), it’s just like having several amps in one."

Originally Posted by Paleolith54

You seem to be very confused about what a modeling amp is. None of the things you listed as constituents of "modeling" have anything to do with amp modeling The one you did mention (settings to emulate...) is actually the one that shows that it is a modeling amp.

I think we are splitting hairs here. But getting back to my original comment, notice that Sweetwater calls the Mustang 40 a modeling amp:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...6.5-inch-combo

but they DO NOT refer to the Champion 40 as a modeling amp, but just say that it has "Selectable Amp Voicing", a very different thing.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...inch-combo-amp

[Paleolith54]

Originally Posted by Jerry D

I think we are splitting hairs here. But getting back to my original comment, notice that Sweetwater calls the Mustang 40 a modeling amp:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...6.5-inch-combo

but they DO NOT refer to the Champion 40 as a modeling amp, but just say that it has "Selectable Amp Voicing", a very different thing.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...inch-combo-amp

This is just conversation, so I'm not going to drag it out. How Fender describes the amp in its marketing literature has nothing at all to do with the subject. Where do you think those "selectable amp voices" come from? Just Google the term "amp modeling" it's very straightforward .

[jazzguy]

Well said Ed In Ohio. The Soul Food is quite good. I have a TC Electronic MojoMojo OD pedal now. I had the Soul Food With a different amp. I like the Mojo a lot but I may need to add the SF back for some extra sauce! I clearly had a “what was I thinking?!” moment with my PRRI. My favorite amp of all time is the Super Reverb but my house is not a stadium [emoji4] The PRRI to me is a shrunken Super Reverb.

[Ed-in-Ohio]

Originally Posted by jazzguy

Well said Ed In Ohio. The Soul Food is quite good. I have a TC Electronic MojoMojo OD pedal now.

The MojoMojo is a great pedal! Have you seen Paul Gilbert's demo video for it. Great stuff!

https://youtu.be/Le4wL362MVU

[paulp1960]

Originally Posted by Jerry D

I think we are splitting hairs here. But getting back to my original comment, notice that Sweetwater calls the Mustang 40 a modeling amp:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...6.5-inch-combo

but they DO NOT refer to the Champion 40 as a modeling amp, but just say that it has "Selectable Amp Voicing", a very different thing.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...inch-combo-amp

If it makes you feel better to believe (wrongly) that your Champ 40 is not a modeling amp then so be it. No point arguing with somebody like that.