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Old 01-10-2021, 06:52 AM
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Default introduction to greek rythms-kalamatiano 7/8

hi guys!!check out kalamatiano rythm and try to play along..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn69...=mariosfrastas
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Old 01-10-2021, 10:42 AM
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Cool! I can reproduce it straight away but I sure as heck can't play over it.

Let's see/hear you do it!!!

Thanks for posting that.
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Old 01-10-2021, 02:29 PM
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its not that hard if you "break"it to 3-2-2
for me (im from greece)its pretty easy, cause its a traditional rythm..
we know these rythms from hundrents of famous greek songs..
but many friends of mine from around the world are having a lot of trouble playing along..so thats why im upploading all of these videos..
(forgive my terrible english)

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Old 01-10-2021, 08:26 PM
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Iím confused - I only hear six beats.
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Old 01-11-2021, 02:21 AM
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its not that hard if you "break"it to 2-2-3
I hear 3+2+2. Which is correct? Is it a very old style?

I'm interested because flamenco has 12-beat rhythms that are similar to kalamatiano (only a little similar). One is 3+3+2+2+2 and another is 2+2+3+3+2.

Your English is good!
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Old 01-11-2021, 11:40 AM
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Hereís a guy playing it on a bouzouki (I think). Itís in Greek, but you can hear him play it and say it in several spots. 3-2-2:

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Old 01-11-2021, 12:24 PM
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Ha-ha, that is so cool! Thanks for uploading that, godfreydaniel! We can’t understand a word he says (well, I can’t), but the music makes it all clear.

A friend here in Spain told me she visited Greece and found it to be a little disconcerting, because, in the right context, she understood what people were saying by observing their tone of voice, demeanor, mannerisms, etc., even though (she said) none of the words were even remotely similar to Spanish.
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I hear 3+2+2. Which is correct? Is it a very old style?

I'm interested because flamenco has 12-beat rhythms that are similar to kalamatiano (only a little similar). One is 3+3+2+2+2 and another is 2+2+3+3+2.

Your English is good!
you can play all kind of varations
3+2+2 and 2+2+3 and sometimes 2+3+2 (the last one is rare)
but the basic and most used is 3+2+2
so you hear correct!!

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Old 01-12-2021, 12:37 PM
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sorry guys..in my first post ive made a mistake..the basic rythm in this video is 3-2-2..i ve just corrected it..
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Old 01-12-2021, 12:46 PM
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sorry guys..in my first post ive made a mistake..the basic rythm in this video is 3-2-2..i ve just corrected it..
Thanks! So, can you tell us about the history of that style? I've read that there are records of some ancient Greek rhythms (ancient=thousands of years ago). There's no sheet music, of course, but there's some kind of text that indicates the combinations of long and short intervals, and some of the patterns looked similar to this one, as I recall.
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Old 01-13-2021, 09:11 AM
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officially kalamatianos (as we know it now)started in 19th century in pelloponissos..but they have found some references in Hommer (ancient writer)for a similar dance..they were dancing in an open circle..also they have found some drawings in ancient vessels and walls which they indicate that they were dancing something very similar thousands years ago..
im going to make some videos with my guitar for all the greek rythms pretty soon..
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Old 01-13-2021, 11:39 AM
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Hi Marios F,

That's very interesting. Thanks for uploading that and for taking the time to answer to my questions. I look forward to learning more about this.
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