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08-10-2018, 08:33 PM
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Leonard Cohen Message
I bought this great Leonard Cohen CD the other day and the last track was this short message. Why is this on a Leonard Cohen CD? What's the real message?
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08-10-2018, 08:58 PM
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You might be surprised to learn there is a sort of Leonard Cohen forum and I found this post https://www.leonardcohenforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2149
Perhaps his real message or intent is what you interpret it to be. Below are the lyrics to the song... It`s going to happen very soon.
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08-10-2018, 09:27 PM
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Thanks for the research, Basalt. Who is that woman? After reading all those posts on the Leonard Cohen Forum, it appears to be a mystery.
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08-11-2018, 10:41 AM
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Leonard Cohen, what a great poet and songwriter. Thank you for sharing this.
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08-11-2018, 02:52 PM
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08-11-2018, 06:26 PM
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In the CD insert it says:
Track 13 The Great Event Written by Leonard Cohen Produced by Steve Lindsey Vocals by Leonard Cohen and Victoria Keyboard instrumental performed by Jim Cox Programming and editing by Iki Levi Recorded and mixed by Gabe Veltri Previously unreleased track
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08-12-2018, 05:24 AM
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08-13-2018, 10:56 AM
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I'd say it's a joke playing on apocalyptic sensibilities (there will be a "great event," after which everything changes) as well as that intersection between an artist's egomania and the messianic fantasies of their fans where one would think all it takes to trigger the Big Good Change is the right performance of the right work of genius by the noble artist.
Yet beneath the humor is an unironic assertion of the power of creation. The artist's performance or bird's song as a piece of creation that praises the act of creation via analogy: futile, inconsequential, and a little ridiculous, but containing the pattern of renewal, whether it's the same old birdsong, a modified Beethoven, or Leonard's new song.
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08-22-2018, 06:39 PM
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Back in the day (1970s) "Victoria" used to open for James Taylor, and may have been one of Cohen's very talented backup singers (such as the late great Laura Branigan).
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08-23-2018, 02:01 AM
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When I heard the absurd signal processing of that woman's voice I just stopped it.
How silly. Is the writing so weak that they can't just say what they want to say without stooping to that hokey special-effect garbage? Guess not.
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08-23-2018, 07:05 AM
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I had not heard this before.
Good poetry, even song lyrics can be cryptic. It is a challenge to the listener to interpret such things as he/she wishes. It can be like a verbal rorschach test. You see/hear what is in YOUR mind. even simple song lyrics can be interpreted in different ways - such as : "What Now My Love?" ... or "What Now? my love?" or "What Is This Thing Called Love" ... or "What is this thing called? love?" my ought about the spoken poem is that it might have been spoken backwards and then played back backwards - they did something like that scene in the "red Room" in the TV series "Twin Peaks" kluc doog
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08-23-2018, 10:04 AM
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Well this is sort of up my alley, in that more than half of what I do is spoken/chanted word (most often poetry) with various original music. I aim for variety in my project so I'll try a lot of different things.
I suspect this reading is some variety of text to speech to begin with, AKA "computer speech" or "talking computer" or "Stephen Hawking." You can sort of fake that with effects, but just using this built-in feature in modern computer operating systems would be Occam's razor. There may be some add pitch to non-pitched material (AKA the vocoder, Cher, TPain etc effect). The pleasantness of that effect varies depending on how it's done and the listener. This example got a lot of Internet ears about a decade ago. If you don't like this effect, I'd urge you to let the piece play on, as it may grow on you (or not, music is subjective): I like the poem used in the OP's linked example fine, but I don't think the production/presentation worked very well. There are certainly a lot of ways to do this sort of thing (I've put out almost 250 examples after all) but not all of them work.
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