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Well that was very interesting - I just went to a guitar shop for the first time in two years. I played all their tiny guitars:
Yamaha APXT2 Martin LXK2 Cort Earth mini Fender Redondo mini Gretsch Jim Dandy Redding mini Alvarez LJ2e Boy, I loved how light they all were compared to my Journey OF-660. And the Martin, Alvarez and the Gretsch sounded reasonable but not great. But they all sounded boxier or banjo-like compared to the Journey. When I came home and played mine, it sounded SO much better than any in the shop, and ergonomically the shape feels so much better too. Darn that weight! I'm going to go back to the drawing board and try to make my Journey even lighter! Last edited by goog64; 10-11-2021 at 01:36 AM. |
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Aren't those guitars you mention less than half the cost of the Journey? Not a fair comparison I say.
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The weight is most likely why the Journey sounds better to you than the wood ones. I doubt that removing as much of it as you can will adversely affect it to the point you can hear any difference. I’ve owned an ‘08 CA Cargo since new which have a reputation for great tone for their small size. It’s on the heavy side, but I’ve personally attributed the great tone in part due to its weight.
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Good point. Although in blind tests I, and many others, often prefer the sound of a cheap guitar vs an expensive one.
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Have you weighed it yet with all the tuner knobs replaced? I'm fascinated to see what you've managed to shave off with all this effort.
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No, I'm still waiting for my friend to print the last 5 tuner knobs. I will definitely post the result here.
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And I've Googled that washer idea but can't find much. Can you please tell me about that? |
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https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=503810 Followed it exactly. Why?
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The "TECHNOFRET Alternate String Anchoring System". He had a lot of description on his eBay page. The kit came with aluminum washers and a long tube to help the installation on difficult to reach inside guitars. He gave a long list of reason why this improves the stability and sound of the guitar. I won't add that here. For me, I just liked the simplicity and clean looks of pin-less. But by the time I began reading about this, he had already stopped selling the kits. So I decided to find just the right size aluminum washers myself. It was not as easy as I thought. I only needed washers because the OF660 design made guiding a string up and through the pin holes using just my fingers, simple. I did correspond with murrmac123 at the time to see if maybe he had just "one" more kit remaining--but no--he was through with all that. I did the careful measurements needed to determine the inside and outside diameters of the washers needed. The outside diameter needed to be small enough not to touch or rest on the K&K pickup clones in the Journey. With some difficulty, I found a supplier and ordered. It was a bit more expensive than if the kit had still been available--but not a deal breaker. Notes on my washers:
---about 3mm washer holes are best to keep the ball from slipping through. You may be able to find just the washers you need at your local hardware store if you just want to do a test to see if you like it or not and choose steel. VERY cheap. But I heeded murrmac123's advice and experience closely and wanted to stay with aluminum as he had tried them all. I could only find aluminum the right size with an online order. YMMV. On my next string change, I've decided I will install the aluminum washers semi-permanently inside the guitar using rubber cement or some other type of removable glue. Then, when changing strings, I don't need to slip the washers on each string before threading the string through the hole. Misplacing them will not be possible. Photos below: Last edited by ac; 10-19-2021 at 02:35 AM. |
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Wow! Thank you so much for that great information. I will definitely try this.
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Before I got a CF guitar, all my experiences with CF were things that were primarily purchased because they were lighter - bear canister, canoe, bicycle fork.... And now we have an all CF guitar with a 12" lower bout that weighs as much as a full-size wood guitar. I am trying to wrap my head around this and just suppose there were other features of CF that prompted its use in guitars. And weight was not one of them.
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