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06-18-2009, 07:30 PM
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Why use a Spanish heel??
Directed to builders in particular...what with the difficulty of doing a neck re-set, why would a builder use a Spanish heel design rather than a dove tail/mortise and tenon/bolt on design??
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06-18-2009, 10:28 PM
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If the spanish heal that you are talking about is in a classical guitar, You might as well forget about a neck reset. The way that they are made will not allow you to do so, unless you take the whole guitar apart.
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06-18-2009, 10:40 PM
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Tradition; practice building that way; a belief that it makes a better sounding guitar. I think these are all reasons why some builders use this method.
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06-19-2009, 04:20 AM
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For the same reason all "real" Martins have a dovetail joint.
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06-19-2009, 05:21 AM
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To give people something to argue about?? 
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06-19-2009, 05:39 AM
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To be fair, I believe there's one (traditional) construction method that fundamentally leads to something like a "Spanish Heel". So it's not quite as direct a substitution as on something like a Martin steel-string.
But I can't resist a pithy analogy.
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06-19-2009, 05:43 AM
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Would someone be so kind enough to 'splain a "Spanish Heel" (LUCY!!!) in 25 words or less (yeah, I'm sure Frets.com has it...but I'm lazy today
 ). I am HOPING it isn't some "exclusive feature" of the new "Esteban Flamenco Specials"  
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06-19-2009, 05:46 AM
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http://andymanson.co.uk/photos-group-90.html (this is the construction of my parlour guitar which Andy built for me) Fliss
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06-19-2009, 05:51 AM
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 This photo, along with one fact, tells all you need to know about this style of construction. That fact being...the guitar is assembled by putting the ends of the sides into those slots in the neck heel. But as you can see, that neck ain't coming off the heel block once the guitar is together. It's all one hunk o'wood.
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06-19-2009, 06:12 AM
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06-19-2009, 06:17 AM
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I think they use an old-fashioned method of assembly on a certain kind table or platform which pretty much simplifies and assures the geometry of the body, neck, strings, etc. will come out correct. That way of building implies starting from the neck/heel slots and working around the sides.
There are other ways of building but I think the old method is very straightforward and has a track record of good results over hundreds of years. And with nylon strings, the mean length of time until a neck needs to be reset (on an initially well-built instrument) is many, many decades. Steel strings are a bit more neck-deforming, making a one-piece neck and heel riskier. That's how I (mis)understanding it as a lay person anyway. Hopefully the guitar builders will chime in and set me aright...
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06-19-2009, 06:21 AM
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06-19-2009, 06:43 AM
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06-19-2009, 08:05 AM
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