Home made FishRite..we will see..

[Rudy4]

Originally Posted by Rudy4

Overheard in a club...

"He plays well enough, but it all sort of sounds like an aquarium pump running..."

"I thought something sounded a little fishy!"

[Scuzzo]

Originally Posted by Rudy4

Overheard in a club...

"He plays well enough, but it all sort of sounds like an aquarium pump running..."

Yes, but it sounded like a vintage pre war aquarium pump... lol

[Scuzzo]

Day3. The guitar sounds better. Lets be real, it's a Yamaha 730, spruce top lam back and sides,, I don't expect it to have the sustain of an all solid guitar. But it sounds best it ever had, more sustain. I ran it through a bunch of stones tunes.. it sounds like the same guitar but some how much better,, more clarity and vibrant tone more complex overtones ?notes have more trail.. something good is happening to this guitar I shall continue.

[RFtinkerer]

Good to hear it's working out! Fun to be able to improve the tone of the guitar in simple ways.

[Batmitestar]

Originally Posted by Scuzzo

I guess its doing the same job but i am able to provide more downward pressure so a better contact surface.. but it looks really stupid..

Right, you wouldn't want a wonky appearance with the aquarium pump, your bandmates might poke fun at you?

[Scuzzo]

Day4. not much change today.. of at least that i can tell. it sounds very good so we will keep going... its not causing any harm... perhaps a tad more open quality to the tone... but the cumulative amount over the last 4 days has been quite noticeable.

[RogerHaggstrom]

Originally Posted by Scuzzo

Day4. not much change today.. of at least that i can tell. it sounds very good so we will keep going... its not causing any harm... perhaps a tad more open quality to the tone... but the cumulative amount over the last 4 days has been quite noticeable.

I give my restorations 3 days, after that the bulk of the change is done and not much more will happen

[RFtinkerer]

I would recommend keeping a simple way to maintain it. I've moved to the surface vibration speaker directly on the 3 guitar stand. Easy to get the guitars and just make sure I feel the things vibrating nicely when not playing. I'm a bit surprised to feel the 517 is deeper, but it seems so.

[Scuzzo]

Originally Posted by RogerHaggstrom

I give my restorations 3 days, after that the bulk of the change is done and not much more will happen

yes im starting to see a settling of the guitar i think.. perhaps 3 days is the optimum... but its my spare so im going to go a full 7 or 8 days... just to see if i can in inject a few more years into its tone.. lol ha.. it just fun to goof around with..

[RogerHaggstrom]

Originally Posted by Scuzzo

yes im starting to see a settling of the guitar i think.. perhaps 3 days is the optimum... but its my spare so im going to go a full 7 or 8 days... just to see if i can in inject a few more years into its tone.. lol ha.. it just fun to goof around with..

Please do, I'm curious. The three-day treatment I use is empirical and ad hoc, maybe there is more to gain giving it some more time.

Today I had a chat with an old customer, the guitar that I gave 3 days of vibration a couple of years ago have kept on growing being played daily. The vibration period is not the end of it, but a great start.

[edward993]

Day 6: my nasal passages are clearing up and the guitar sounds much better; man did the top open up!
Day 7: maybe a bit better, not sure.
Day 9: no change ...guitar is probably done changing.

...just havin fun now

Edward

[Scuzzo]

day 5. the is a better sence of projection. and the volume has increased. the guitar is sounding much less stiff.. words i would use. lively,, the experiment is a 100 percent success.. and those who dont believe it... great... dont care.. im very very happy with the out come.. i can even notice the fish pump is causing the top and neck to vibrate more then when i attached it on day one..... i would say the body is becoming more pliant what ever its doing its doing it quite well...

[jazzereh]

While I'm a sceptic on this kind of treatment, I'm enjoying reading this thread.

Hearing, or at least describing what you are hearing in words, can lead to placebo issues. I'm not going to say that what YOU hear with this guitar is wrong, you hear what you hear and that's fine. But, is there an actual checkpoint as to how the guitar sounded before you started?

Did you record the guitar, playing the same way you are playing it now, in the same environment, before treatment? Will others hear the difference?

Not trying to be argumentative but that's the only way to really know if there is a change over such a short time.

[Sadie-f]

Originally Posted by jazzereh

While I'm a sceptic on this kind of treatment, I'm enjoying reading this thread.

Hearing, or at least describing what you are hearing in words, can lead to placebo issues. I'm not going to say that what YOU hear with this guitar is wrong, you hear what you hear and that's fine. But, is there an actual checkpoint as to how the guitar sounded before you started?

Did you record the guitar, playing the same way you are playing it now, in the same environment, before treatment? Will others hear the difference?

Not trying to be argumentative but that's the only way to really know if there is a change over such a short time.

Agreed, I'm dubious on an audible change over only a week of application, let alone 3 days. If I wanted to do such an experiment, at the very least, I'd record using a reproducible setup, and pluck individual notes on all 6 strings with a measured deflection before release. Being me, I'd then analyze tone decay, and Fourier plots with an oscilloscope.

I also agree, I'm enjoying this thread :-)

[RogerHaggstrom]

I don't have to believe or get any scientific proof anymore, I actually KNOW that it works. And it has worked 200+ times over the years.

Well. Here is someone doing a kind of scientific experiment using an unbiased microphone and a computer. The subject is an unplayed and stiff old Gibson guitar. Not an aquarium pump, but any vibration acting on the guitar are good vibrations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmaQM1el1n0