Playing in the key of F ...

[rick-slo]

Originally Posted by Howard Klepper

Don't worry about the full barre. You don't need to play 6 string chords. Most of Hank Williams is 3 note chords; occasionally a 4th note.

Good luck strumming.
Barres are (or should be) just another part of basic guitar playing technique.

[Silly Moustache]

Originally Posted by rick-slo

Good luck strumming.
Barres are (or should be) just another part of basic guitar playing technique.

Quite true, but sometimes and in some styles - (blues, bluegrass etc) barre chords don't give you the facilities that 1st position shapes do.

[martingitdave]

Capo 3: D,C,G 5/4/1

[Pualee]

Hank Williams... Fake Book... Key of F...

Sounds like you have a piano book that is taking a hard piano key (E) from a guitar player, and putting it in an easy piano key (F). After all, it is only 1/2 step difference.

Transpose it to E.

[JonPR]

I still want to know what song it is...
I know it doesn't matter, I'm just curious.

[Paultergeist]

Originally Posted by Pualee

Hank Williams... Fake Book... Key of F...

Sounds like you have a piano book that is taking a hard piano key (E) from a guitar player, and putting it in an easy piano key (F). After all, it is only 1/2 step difference.

Transpose it to E.

My sentiments as well. My suspicion is that Hank Williams originally played it himself in E, and (a) either capo'd it at the first fret himself (and the transcriber just wrote it as being in F) or (b) the piano player simply made life easier on himself and other piano players by transcribing the key from E to F.

The OP also seemed to indicate in the original post that the song was a I -- IV -- V progression. I find it unlikely that a guitarist would select the key of F for such a progression.

On the other hand, the key of F (Major) can be fairly guitar-friendly if the chords of the song involved rely heavily on the 3rd (Am), 5th (C7), and 6th (Dm) -- this depending upon the song.

But for a I - IV - V.....play it in E as opposed to F.

[ljguitar]

Originally Posted by jasperguitar

Larry ,, is the B flat considered a bar chord ?

Hi jg…

Wouldn't that depend on how you play/finger it?

[Pualee]

Originally Posted by ljguitar

Hi jg…

Wouldn't that depend on how you play/finger it?

For folks who don't like barre chords, I find the C shaped chord played as an inside chord (strings 2 - 5) works very nicely as a movable chord shape - it sounds full. just play the 2nd string with your middle and the 3rd with your index (although, I do generally play this as a barre chord too so I can play the 1st string as well).

If you can play the Am shape as a barre chord, you can play the C shape too. Only the pinky moves.

[SteveS]

Are you telling me that there are other chords than C, G, E, A and D?

[ljguitar]

Originally Posted by Pualee

For folks who don't like barre chords, I find the C shaped chord played as an inside chord (strings 2 - 5) works very nicely as a movable chord shape - it sounds full. just play the 2nd string with your middle and the 3rd with your index (although, I do generally play this as a barre chord too so I can play the 1st string as well).

If you can play the Am shape as a barre chord, you can play the C shape too. Only the pinky moves.

Hi P…

Inside chords which move up/down the neck and work on most any fret are not barres. The one you suggest is not unless you barre with it.

As a finger styler, I find the variety of being able to easily finger inversions and then add/subtract fingers (hammering or articulated) is key to a richer sound.

My point is I'll capo one and play in E or capo 2 frets and play in D rather than playing in F, because it frees me up to fingerstyle with more variety.

[Pualee]

Originally Posted by ljguitar

Hi P…

As a finger styler, I find the variety of being able to easily finger inversions and then add/subtract fingers (hammering or articulated) is key to a richer sound.

I don't play finger style, but I am starting to prefer chords that allow me to embellish with a few easy hammer on/pull offs now too...

Actually, just knowing all the intervals of the chord, and the nearby intervals of the current song's key provides a lot of opportunities.

[jasperguitar]

I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) by Hank Williams ..

Its in a second hand fake book I purchased .. in the key of F ..

Here is a version done by Patsy Cline ... holy God, is she great or what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBarGG9cpCs

[stanron]

This sounds like it's in E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StyKrwHhWdM

Seems like everyone is right, playing it in E is not just a cop out.

[jasperguitar]

Stan Ronski .. I can play it in another key ,, or use the capo .. I just got thinking, or goofing and wondering if people play in F for the fun of it .

I will say this ; playing in F is hard, and the practice really pushes me to play the F bar, the B fl Bar, the C far [ A form ]

E is better though .. has a fuller sound .. with open strings etc.

ps .. Merry Christmas

[soao]

Piece of cake

Play a thumb wrap "F"

press the ring finger down to press an "A" chord moved up one fret. F, Bb,D
Just play those 3 notes. That's the Bb chord

a "C" is a "C".