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I agree with this statement. Notice he didn’t say anything about technical ability or song difficulty. Once you are serious enough to know you won’t quit.
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I’m gonna disagree with this, though I support the underlying message. Andy Mckee, Billy Strings, Sierra Hull, Molly Tuttle, Tosin Abasi, Tim Henson, all have pretty nice instruments, are all amazing and are all fairly prominent on Youtube.
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Regarding the OP, I always like Bob Taylor's advice to buy the guitar(s) that inspires you to play every day. There's no price setpoint for that.
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Stairway to Heaven
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I have to share what was said to me when I started my journey on the fiddle. I started out with a $109 fiddle, that was ok for a beginner. After about 6-7 months, I upgraded to the next fiddle in the particular brands line and played it for several months. I then knew I was going to continue playing, so I went to Nashville to hit a legit violin shop and get a really good instrument. The owner there told me that, IF I knew I was going to continue playing, get the very best instrument that I could afford and grow into it versus continuing to buy a little bit better, then a little better than that one and so on. He also said the same thing about a good bow too. Having a great instrument that sounds and feels good to play will MAKE you WANT to play more.
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I bought my first Lowden, an O-10 (cedar/mahogany) in 1997. It cost me £1,395 brand new. The equivalent instrument, now designated O-22, would cost ~£3,300 today.
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I agree with DBW and would add that a great guitar could be an inspiration to play and advance your skills.
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I turned into a roadie pretty quickly, though, had a number of steel and ti frames before I finally broke down and went custom. I was actually in line for one of Richard's frames, but his line was about seven years at that point, and I bailed on him and had Tom Kellogg design me a ti frame (took 2-3 months IIRC, to get the finished frame from Merlin), which I loved so unbelievably much, I had him do another one for more relaxed rides, more tire clearance, etc. Great frame, but not near as much fun as the first one. BTW, with initials of RSachs, I got mistaken online for Richard a number of times. I knew him a little bit - met him a couple times. We used to call each other "cuz", but he never offered me a family discount... I know folks who did the PAC tour - that's a level of crazy I never aspired to! Never wanted to ride PBP either. I did a number of one and two week tours (both supported and un-supported), but nothing longer, and they never averaged more than about a metric century a day. That was enough for me. But man I loved it when I was doing it. I was never more than a strong B rider though. I could hang with the A groups until the road went up, then I was on a solo ride, so when I wanted to ride with people, I'd do a B ride. -Ray
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I’ve told my young kids that when they can play — and sing — “Blackbird” (one of their perennial favorites of Dad’s “guitar songs” at bedtime), they can either pick one of my guitars to keep or I’ll take them to the guitar shop to pick one out.
Tangentially-related intro to my post aside, while I don’t think there needs to be any kind of prerequisite to owning a nice guitar, it makes sense to me that someone’s ownership of a fine instrument would be augmented by the time and effort and and interest that would help one to better appreciate the subtleties and craft that go into a higher-end guitar. That might be someone who’s played for 40 years that knows their way around the fretboard like nobody’s business, or it just might be someone that plays a few cowboy chords but has really taken up an interest in the art and craft of guitar. I’m less excited by the idea of people owning guitars exclusively as investments, but hey — if that’s someone’s hobby, that’s cool. What’s great is that there are so many good to great guitars out there today — vintage, used, or new — at every price point imaginable. Great time to be a guitar player (or enthusiast or connoisseur or whatever)! |
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I'm in the camp that thinks you're asking the wrong question for the answers you're hoping for.
For me, there is no competency related gate to buying a high end guitar. The only questions needed are: Can I afford it? Will I enjoy playing it enough to make it worthwhile? That's it. In terms of which pieces have served as a gate for me to feel like I was a decent player I'll offer 2: Lauro's El Negrito Al Petteway - River (Performed here by the unbelievably good Dustin Furlow)
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Perhaps one should have songs at $5K increments. So for a $25 - 30K+ Olsen, Somogyi, etc., is TE’s version of Classical Gas too easy?
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Somebody had to. I'm surprised it took 5 pages lol
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"Till my guitar gently weeps."
Which, incidentally, is in C major. If you can nail the E7sus without having to look it up, go ahead and treat yourself to a $6,000 guitar.
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