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I would't write off the Boxcar just yet. Be open to try another.
I, too played the Boxcar side by side with an exact other. For me I bought the one with the action that better fit my style of playing. Even other models of guitars sound different compared to exact others. Good luck. I know you'll find the instrument that's best for you. |
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If you haven't checked out Mike Dowling and his El Trovador you should. Awesome guitar player and such a sweet sound on reso's. Of course its a national and you're back in the $3k range, but someday...
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I'm glad you mentioned Mike. He is the exact reason I bought a reso for fingerpicking. He was one of my fingerstyle instructors at Kaufman's Acoustic Kamp so I got to hear a lot of his playing on a reso. Until then, I guess I didn't realize how beautiful they sound when fingerpicked.
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Picking up a dud Gretsch Resonator is about a 20-25% proposition depending on the model IME. They are out there, but most of them are sturdy, stable and gig-worthy instruments (IMO). I have gigged w/my Boxcar for over 4 years.
No, they aren't a National. I agree that they are the benchmark. You can't buy a well seasoned cube steak and turn it into a Filet Mignon either.
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Gretsch makes a (really) solid resonator that does not dip into a 401K.
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Another possibility. I have to claim complete ignorance except I have seen them on Sweetwater's website.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...-vintage-brown
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OP: just be aware that some of these suggestions are spider-bridge "dobro"-style guitars, while some are biscuit-bridge resonators. They produce very distinct tones, and are often used in different types of music; the spider-bridge is more prevalent in bluegrass, while the biscuits are more widely used in blues. There are no hard and fast rules of course, but be sure you know what your preferences are before you buy. My first resonator was made by Hohner, and sounded really nice after I replaced the cone. It's another brand that many don't think of. And some of the less-expensive ones, like Dean, Regal, Johnson, etc., can also be much improved by swapping out the cone. Continental, Quarterman, and of course National all make replacements that sound better than stock, and it's a fairly inexpensive way to improve tone and sustain. Last edited by Guest 728; 09-21-2018 at 04:23 PM. |
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From my experience, tone/volume is no better on an Epi vs Gretsch either.
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Why?
I have owned just about every Asian resonator made in the last 35 years and I have owned several Nationals and Dobros (both vintage and more recent) . The Nationals and Dobros always sound better. But why? I have always wondered what the Asian market is missing and why a stellar resonator can't be produced in China or Korea or Japan. I once owned a Donmo . A small Australian maker. It sounded every bit as good as any wood body National I played but it was not well built and eventually imploded. Anyway, can anyone shed some light on how National and pre-Asian Dobros get it but the Asian market doesn't? Hint: It isn't just the cones.
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Not too long ago I also was looking for a round neck resonator. I tried the more readily available budget options and was similarly unimpressed. I ordered a Gold Tone Paul Beard Mastertone a couple years ago and like it a lot.
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For the record, not all metal-bodied resonators are shiny. National makes dull finished, painted bodies as well. They tend to be cheaper.
I find the sound of a wood bodied resonator to be a mixture of a regular guitar and an all metal one. Since I got my Franks, I almost never play the '32 National. The sounds are so different. A while ago, I bought a Recording King wood-bodied resonator to give to a friend. But of course I played it for a week before he got it. Decent, no complaints, well worth the bucks.
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I'm new to resonators and recently bought a Gold Tone Paul Beard Mastertone round neck. I like it. While the body (which looks great) is made in China, the cones are made by Paul Beard, whose cones have a good reputation. Seems like a good compromise - especially if one isn't yet sure about investing the $ in a National or the like.
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I think an important thing to think about is do you want the sweeter tone of a spider cone resonator or the bluesier brashy tone of biscuit. They sound quite different from eachother.
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I bought a Gretsch Boxcar when they first came out, still have it. It's pretty sweet and smooth compared to a metal-body. It stays in tune pretty well. I use heavy strings (Pearse 16s) and play mostly slide on it.
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