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Old 06-08-2021, 12:40 PM
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Default 50s vs 60s/modern wiring?

Thoughts on the two? Specifically this is in regard to Gibson/Epiphone instruments but could be related to others as well. Do you have a preference?
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I'm guessing that my Gibsons all have modern (60s) wiring but I would like to try 50s wiring to gain the benefits of rolling back the volume knob and retaining the highs. I had to Google the differences... at one point I had known the difference.

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I'm guessing that my Gibsons all have modern (60s) wiring but I would like to try 50s wiring to gain the benefits of rolling back the volume knob and retaining the highs. I had to Google the differences... at one point I had known the difference.

How about you, Todd?
Honestly, I'm on the fence about it. I have an Epi 59 LP that has 50s wiring. Recently, I purchased an Epiphone IBG 60s LP which has modern wiring. The 60s is a bit darker, but I'm not sure if it means a ton to me. But it did make me wonder how others feel about it? I debated between the 60s and 50s, but since I have the 59 already, I leaned towards something a little different. But now I'm even considering some Humbucker sized P90s for it, like maybe the SD Phat Cats. [emoji1787] I'm never happy!
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50s if you fiddle with volume and tone knobs.
If you set and forget, modern.
My Les Paul has 50s and I’m constantly moving the v & t
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I'm guessing that my Gibsons all have modern (60s) wiring but I would like to try 50s wiring to gain the benefits of rolling back the volume knob and retaining the highs. I had to Google the differences... at one point I had known the difference.

How about you, Todd?
you realize you can get a CTS pot with a variable treble bleed circuit right?

https://guitarelectronics.com/cts-50...more%20rows%20

I have a LP Standard that I installed one in. Works great.
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I prefer 50s style. Keeps treble when the volume is down, and the tone knob pulls out a little volume, and they're rather more interactive. I'd like to redo my ES-335, but pulling and replacing the harness is more ambition than I have most days.
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you realize you can get a CTS pot with a variable treble bleed circuit right?

https://guitarelectronics.com/cts-50...more%20rows%20

I have a LP Standard that I installed one in. Works great.
Cool, thanks Ray. That's easier than wiring the components.
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Cool, thanks Ray. That's easier than wiring the components.
hey Dru, yea, for sure... see if you can do it. I think they work really good.

I have a 2002 LP standard w/Burstbuckers (stock), I did not like them.

I dropped a pair of Duncans in there, but in doing so, immediately noticed the stock pots had a very fast roll off on volume, (like 7, was 2) and the high end went kaputz as soon as I dialed back either volume

The Gibson stock pots just for what ever reason, were not a good match for the Duncans.

I dropped two of these in place of those stock pots, and Viola! Volume control right down to "1" worked again, and with the variable bleed circuit, I could dial in the amount of highs I wanted to retain. Took some tweaking but once I got it set, I've not touched it since.
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