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04-16-2021, 12:25 PM
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Do satin finishes suffer from checking or immune from it?
I was wondering if anyone knows whether we have to be careful with satin finish guitars like the Martin 000-15 the same way you do with gloss finishes
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04-16-2021, 12:28 PM
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Not to my knowledge.
The experts will soon be chiming in
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04-16-2021, 12:43 PM
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Had a satin lacquer guitar years back. Got lots of checking from rapid temperature changes.
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04-16-2021, 12:57 PM
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Typical wood finishes belong to one of two categories of finish types. Those that sit on the surface of the wood are referred to as "surface finishes". Those that penetrate into the fibres of the wood are referred to as "penetrating finishes". Most penetrating finishes - mostly oil-based finishes - have little or no "build" to them that sits on the surface of the wood. Hence, there is no layer of finish that can cold check or craze. These finishes are typically matte or satin in sheen. Some surface finishes - most notably nitrocellulose lacquer - are prone to cold checking/crazing. Some are not. Surface finishes can be matte, satin or gloss. Thus, the answer to your question is that it largely depends on the composition of the finish rather than on its sheen. To determine if a specific instrument is prone to cold checking, start by determining what type and composition of finish it has.
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04-17-2021, 12:09 AM
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Charles is correct - it depends on what the finish material IS, not whether it’s satin or high gloss. As a rule, nitrocellulose lacquer is going to be more prone to finish checking than the various polyester and polyurethane finishes will be.
Hope this helps. Wade Hampton Miller
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04-17-2021, 04:13 AM
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My all Ovangkol Martin D-16 has satin back and sides and gloss top.... back and sides don't have a mark on them, top has pick scratches and circular cleaning marks from wiping it down. I guess it depends on the level of "sheen" a guitar has.
My old beater which was my very first guitar and still have is an old SX dreadnought and it's all gloss and has endless marks all over it.
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04-17-2021, 05:24 AM
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He’s referring to the “cracking” in the finish that can occur due to sudden and relatively extreme temperature change.
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04-17-2021, 05:25 AM
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04-17-2021, 06:24 AM
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Lowdens have had checking issues in their gorgeous satin finishes in the past, most notably at the waist. I had one with them, and even after it was refinished at Lowden, they reappeared. I have a McIlroy now.
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04-17-2021, 02:45 PM
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