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Old 02-24-2021, 02:53 PM
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Default "Who Knows Where the Time Goes" chords in open C tuning?

Hi!

This is the chords and lyrics to a song I want to learn in open C tuning. It was sung by the late great folk singer Sandi Denny and wonder what the chords would be (diagrams if you know). These chords are in regular EADGBE tuning. This is the song list of chords followed by the chords/lyrics of the song:

E = 022100 G#m = 466444 Esus4 = 022200

F#m11/E = 044200 Am = 577555 Badd11 = 799800

Emaj7 = 066400 A = x02220 Aadd9 = 577600

F#m = 244222 Asus4 = x02230 F#m7 = 242222



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[Intro]

E F#m11/E E F#m11/E

||: / / / / | / / / / | / / / / | / / / / :|| [x2]



[Verse 1]

E F#m11/E Emaj7 F#m11/E

A - cross the evening sky, ...all the birds are leaving---------,

E F#m11/E Emaj7 F#m11/E

But how can they know ...it's time for them to go----------?



[Verse 2]

F#m G#m Am G#m

Before the winter fire, I will still be dreaming,

A Asus4 A E Esus4 E Badd11 Aadd9

I have no thought of time, ...for who knows where the time goes?

E F#m7 A F#m7

Who knows where the time goes-------?



[Verse 3]

E F#m11/E E F#m11/E

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E F#m11/E Emaj7 F#m11/E

Sad deserted shore, ...your fickle friends are leaving--------,

E F#m11/E Emaj7 F#m11/E

Ah, but then you know ...it's time for them ...to go---------



[Verse 4]

F#m G#m Am G#m

But ...I will still be here, I have no thought of leaving,

A Asus4 A E Esus4 E Badd11 Aadd9

I ...do not count the time, ...for who knows where the time goes?

E F#m7 A F#m7

Who knows where the time----- goes-------?



[Verse 5]

E F#m11/E E F#m11/E

| / / / / | / / / / | / / / / | / / / / |



E F#m11/E Emaj7 F#m11/E

And I am not alone, while my love ...is near me,

E F#m11/E Emaj7 F#m11/E

I know it will be so, until it's time to go-------------



[Verse 6]

F#m G#m Am G#m

So ...come the storms of winter, ...and then the birds of ...spring again,

A Asus4 A E Esus4 E Badd11 Aadd9

I have no fear of time, ...for who knows how my love grows?

E F#m7 A F#m7 E

And who knows where the time goes------------?



[Coda]

E F#m11/E Emaj7 F#m11/E E

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Old 02-24-2021, 04:35 PM
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I would just capo the 4th fret and transpose down so you can easily look up a chord chart for your tuning. As an example, for E you would play a C, A becomes F, and B becomes a G.

That's what I would do.
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:51 PM
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Hi Egordon99!

Very nice of you to take the time to respond. The foolish thing I did, and just woke from falling asleep about 2 hrs, was I forgot to say what I actually meant by how I tune to open C. I play in open C most of all and tune it CGCEGC. Some tune to open C in it seems about 2 other ways. Also there are some very different chords that "Fairport Convention" plays. I think that's who Sandi Denny was playing with when she recorded the song back in the Sixties. You should hear her sing it on YouTube if you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsqztvHIB9Y

For example, there's G#m, Esus4, F#m11/E, I show them all in the opening letter I wrote for the thread, some very esoteric chords. I just copy/pasted the lyrics and chords from an online site and they included what string and fret you chord... but all in the standard tuning. So I see where Judy Collins sang it starting with a C chord, like... C F C F back and forth at first which looks simple in the standard tuning... but don't recall looking at what she did for what I think is a key shift to what I think is the "bridge" of the song.

Really though the simple chords are nice, but I want to use some of the more obscure chords because it is a kind of ethereal song. It's kind of a mournful song, but in a beautiful way. I ended up for some reason writing a lot of my own music in recent times in open C tuning. I know it's in some ways with serious musicians (although I'm serious too in a way) almost like a bad habit simply because of the way standard tuning is so well designed.

Really though, my arthritis at 67 yrs is getting worse, (also part of the reason I like owning a nylon string or "classical" guitar, and... "Who Knows Where The Time Goes" ha!!) and in open C tuning I can play some kind of 6th or 7th sounding chords with just 2 fingers and not having to bar which is easier on my hand. It's funny because I water-fasted 4 days and six hours and I could bend my fingers completely in with full "range of motion", and old sprained ankle and other joint pains went away! It all slowly returned once I started eating again.

Very nice of you to respond. I'll read more about what you mean. So with what I said, you think I should still put the capo on 4th fret? I for some reason can't use the capo I had with my other classical guitar I bought used for $10 in 1981 from the Salvation Army store. It's of course a narrower neck. Actually it's a nice capo my dear mother bought in 1962, a connection I have to her. I want to be nice to myself and get that really top rated capo I saw advertised about 1 yr ago. Maybe it's not a good capo and that's why I can't find it. If you or someone might know the brand let me know. I wouldn't pay the extra where you can actually have your name or initials embossed on it. It's a complicated design that in my amateur eyes looks superior, but maybe just a gimmick. Thanks for your help!

Carpe Diem!
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Old 02-24-2021, 06:03 PM
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https://dazwatsonmusic.weebly.com/op...ord-chart.html

That should get you started.
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Old 02-25-2021, 10:42 AM
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As you know, the way the original chords work (most of them) is by moving a shape up the neck while keeping the open E and B strings.

So you can't easily play the exact same voicings in open C, but you can get something similar (and maybe even better).

Firstly I have to assume you are also singing it in the key of C - but if not you could still use a capo to get these shapes higher. Where there are choices below, it's obviously going to depend not just on the sound, but how easy it is to change from one to the other.

C = 0-0-0-0-0-0 (duh!)

Dm11/C = 0-2-2-1-0-0

Cmaj7 = 0-4-4-3-0-0

For the pre-chorus ("before the winter fire"), choices:

Dm7: 2-2-0-1-2-0; or Dm(add4): 2-2-2-1-0-0

Em: 4-4-4-0-0-4, 4-0-4-0-0-4 (or mute 1st string);or Em7: 4-4-4-0-0-2

Fm: 5-5-0-4-5-0; or Fm(add9): 5-5-0-4-0-0 or 5-5-5-4-0-0; or Fm/C: 0-1-0-1-1-0

F: 5-5-5-5-5-5 (duh!); or 5-5-0-5-5-0; or F/C: 0-2-0-1-2-0

G: 7-7-7-7-7-7 (duh!) or G5/D: 2-0-2-3-0-2


Another thought is to tune your 3rd string up to F to get CGCFGC, or DADGAD a step down. Some of the shapes then get simpler - but one or two get harder Some options below (more are possible):

C = 0-0-4-2-0-0; (C5 = 0-0-0-2-0-0)
Dm11/C = 0-2-2-0-0-0
Cmaj7 = 0-4-4-2-0-0
Dm = 2-2-2-0-2-0 (or mute 5th with finger fretting the 6th)
Em(add4): 4-x-4-2-4-2.
Fm (add4): 5-x-5-3-5-3, or 5-5-0-3-5-0
Fm/C: 0-1-0-0-1-0
F = 5-5-0-4-5-0; or F5 = 5-5-5-7-5-5#
F/C: 0-2-0-0-2-0
G = x-0-2-2-4-2; G5: x-0-2-2-0-2
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