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Old 06-16-2024, 11:22 AM
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I picked up a scratch and dent guitar from GC that had been vandalized in the store. It sounds great and plays great. Iím okay with the guitar as-is, but I wouldnít mind taking on a cosmetic repair project to make it look a little better. Itís a 2024 Gibson Dove with some deep gouges. It looks like someone keyed it.

Could I do a nitro drop treatment on this with decent results or should I just leave it alone?

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Old 06-16-2024, 12:20 PM
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I would steam out the gouges as best as possible and then apply finish.
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Old 06-16-2024, 12:43 PM
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I would steam out the gouges as best as possible and then apply finish.
Thank you. I never considered steaming through nitro.
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Thank you. I never considered steaming through nitro.
It does work sometimes. Sometimes even just warm water, left on overnight, can help. Cheap to try, with little risk.

Those scratches/dents look like were done with a dull instrument and didn't scratch through the finish?? Could be a good candidate for drop fill. Can take a lot of re-applications, wet sand, buff.
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Thank you. I never considered steaming through nitro.
You could also poke pinholes through the nitro before steaming. It will be drop filled after.
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Old 06-17-2024, 05:44 AM
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It does work sometimes. Sometimes even just warm water, left on overnight, can help. Cheap to try, with little risk.

Those scratches/dents look like were done with a dull instrument and didn't scratch through the finish?? Could be a good candidate for drop fill. Can take a lot of re-applications, wet sand, buff.
There are a couple of nicks that got through the finish, but I can live with those. I will be happy just to flatten the trenches.
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It can absolutely be made to look better. But will require some time, patience and a good repair person. You might still see evidence of it, but it will look a lot better.
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Old 06-17-2024, 09:26 AM
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It can absolutely be made to look better. But will require some time, patience and a good repair person. You might still see evidence of it, but it will look a lot better.
I appreciate the encouragement! I just need to turn myself into a good repair person...
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I would not be taking on a repair of this magnitude and visibility as an early attempt at finish repair. These huge gouges will be challenges for the most skilled of finish repair folks, and the chance of making it much worse is high. I'd either leave them be or get the work profe$$ionally done. An upmarket instrument like this one ain't where I'd be learning on the job.
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Old 06-17-2024, 04:39 PM
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I would not be taking on a repair of this magnitude and visibility as an early attempt at finish repair. These huge gouges will be challenges for the most skilled of finish repair folks, and the chance of making it much worse is high. I'd either leave them be or get the work profe$$ionally done. An upmarket instrument like this one ain't where I'd be learning on the job.
I think you are right. I tried to use the steam method on a very small section of one of the gouges and the nitro fogged almost immediately. I've done CA fill on poly guitars before, but I've never done anything like this on a nitro guitar.
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First off - whomever did that has no soul. Second - it sure can't hurt anything to try and steam it.
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First off - whomever did that has no soul. Second - it sure can't hurt anything to try and steam it.


I did try to steam a very small area and it fogged the nitro almost immediately.
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I'd be thinking like an M.D: First, do no harm. Messing with the soundboard, especially one that needs extensive repair, is a good way to turn a scuffed expensive instrument into expensive junk.
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I did try to steam a very small area and it fogged the nitro almost immediately.
I think I would've skipped the steaming process and gone straight to the

Body Finish: Gloss Nitrocellulose Lacquer (per Gibson's specs, link provided below)

That's if I were going to try to repair it. But I'm potentially leaving my lane for that much of a refinish too ? I'd probably practice on something else first just to gain the experience & learn what to expect. Are the gouges thru the paint & into wood ? It's kinda hard to tell from the photos and the scratches appear to be white from the scratch in a clear coat ? Beautiful guitar, shame it got scraped. I hope they caught the vandal and processed them appropriately for that crime.

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Old 06-17-2024, 10:56 PM
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How much work would it be to sand only the top, and then refinish it? Sanding the top is probably time-consuming but DIY-able. Refinishing? Maybe a local luthier could do it for you (the top only)? Or you could use Shellac - which seems a lot easier, and safer, than Nitro (you'd have the only Shellac/Nitro hybrid guitar in the world).

I've never done either (top sanding, or guitar finishing), so maybe I'm oversimplifying it. I admit, it would be a lot of work - but the end result would probably be nice.
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