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I.e., MIDI is easy once you realise that a keyboard is just a bank of switches - and that they can produce digital data rather than sounds. So getting from pressing a key to putting a note symbol on the staff bypasses the whole messy business of producing sound on the way. MIDI guitar pickups went one further and used convertors to change the vibrations into digital data. But in both cases the notation they spat out needed a whole load of editing and formatting. Easy enough to get the pitches correct. But the timing depended on deciding on a time signature first, playing to a click, and then quantizing the output. The problem is that staff notation is not a direct analogue of the sounds. It's a system of symbols that require translation, both from sound into symbol, and then from symbol to sound by a reader. In a sense it's the same problem as getting software to produce text from speech. It can be done, but produces all kinds of weird artefacts on the way, because of how people pronounce words, or blur syllables together, or use unusual accents. And speech doesn't even have the issue of symbols representing duration, whicih notation depends upon.
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This is something I have long wanted - and have been told multiple times not to expect it. Once I bought an app (long forgotten) and a USB mike and tried it out. First, notes other than the melody line confuses it, things like chord. I am used to playing accompaniment to my melody and it was harder than I anticipated to pare it down to just the melody line.
The results were.... sorta right. But by the time i went into it and made the needed changes, i found it was just quicker and easier to write it out long-hand, like I have done for decades. Still... I can always hope. What I envision would save me a great deal of effort and time if it existed.. For now, it would be easier to just to learn to play keyboard, not that I ever will.
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https://youtu.be/_Ts_Av5IGUk?t=156
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Here's Bert Jansch using one in 1992: https://youtu.be/DONv5nqjbsE?t=1333 The PC is an Atari ST, and the software is C-Lab Notator - obviously both obsolete long ago! And what that doesn't show is the lengthy process of editing the resulting notation to make it readable by a human (the small clip you see is not aligned properly with the time signature, so doesn't represent the intended timing). I think he was using a Roland GK-2 pickup (or something earlier and similar) and the GK-3 is still available. The pickup itself is not MIDI (it's magnetic, so only works with steel strings) but attaches to a convertor, and picks up each string individually (the software records it as six separate tracks that then needs merging to one for notation). Discussion here: https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=197293 Demo here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ribasWmfvvs I.e., most people use them to operate synths, but it produces MIDI data, so can be input into sequencing software for translation to notation.
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