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11-14-2018, 03:29 PM
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Piezo for that "Acoustic" Sound
Guys, What do you think of equipping an electric guitar with a Piezo pick up to create that acoustic tone when playing live? I run into a lot of guys that don't like it and would just assume have an electric and an acoustic. I actually kind of like it myself. Opinions?
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#2
11-14-2018, 04:00 PM
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L.R. Baggs actually makes a pickup for just that purpose, or did at one point, anyway. In your position I would check with them.
whm
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#3
11-14-2018, 04:02 PM
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I'm in the "don't like it" camp. I installed a set of Graphtec piezo saddles and preamp on a strat, and was very disappointed with the sound. It sounded thin and percussive... didn't come anywhere near what an acoustic sounds like. I also have an Epiphone 339 Ultra with the Nanomag "acoustic" pickup, and it does no better. I can get closer with a strat or tele through a clean amp with a touch of reverb and chorus.
IMO, if you want an acoustic sound, play an acoustic.
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11-14-2018, 04:12 PM
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Epiphone added an acoustic pickup on a Les Paul model about eight years ago. It went through a few iterations but in its best version it never really worked. Taylors T5z is a semi hollow acoustic electric. It is a Great electric but only an OK amplified acoustic. If Taylor could not make it work well I would not think that any personal undertaking would be successful.
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#5
11-14-2018, 04:16 PM
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Yeah, I’ve never cared for the sound of those electric guitar piezo “acoustic” pickups, either - all that I’ve heard have been nasal-sounding and “piezo-y” to an extreme degree. But they do exist and are available for those who want them.
whm
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11-14-2018, 04:24 PM
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Piezo
I use them on both Renaissance and Rick Turner Model 1 and do like them a lot. However some electrics it simply doesn’t work well.
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#7
11-14-2018, 04:43 PM
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if you want a different electric sound, you can try it but it won't turn your electric into an acoustic. i don't even like them on acoustics as i prefer to mic.
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#8
11-14-2018, 04:46 PM
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No
Piezo might be able to create the sound of a piezo in a acoustic instrument. To my ears a piezo in a acoustic does not sound acoustic.
I don't think there is a way to make a solid body sound acoustic.
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#9
11-14-2018, 04:48 PM
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It's far from perfect, but the best approximations I've heard are the model/sample based ones, like the Line6 Variax or the Roland MIDI acoustic patches. The advantage of the Variax is that they are dead-easy to use and react to your usual playing techniques. The Roland/MIDI approach requires cleaner playing than the average player uses to prevent unwanted glitches, but they can retrofitted to most existing electric guitars fairly easily, and MIDI control offer a lot of other things you can do.
And of course you'll do best for "real acoustic sound" if the "acoustic" is sent though something other than an electric guitar amp. If in some dream someone told me I had to play some gig where I alone had to play acoustic on the verses and then electric on the chorus or something equally challenging I think I'd probably go with a Variax--though there are those that will do the acoustic in a stand in playing position to do this--but that's sort of an unusual situation. Most folks will just use an acoustic guitar for acoustic guitar parts on stage.
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#10
11-14-2018, 05:02 PM
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A Line 6 Variax can do it well. But there does not appear to be any aftermarket solution that equals it for a generic Strat or LP guitar. The Roland system is not competitive with Line 6.
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#11
11-14-2018, 05:11 PM
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I had one of these in the '90s - the small selector switch was for acoustic simulation, and it didn't do a bad job at all (although reading the description the owner of this has no idea what that switch was originally for!).
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...990s-311996292
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#12
11-14-2018, 05:20 PM
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How about an acoustic with a piezo, Humbucker and a thin electric neck?
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#13
11-14-2018, 05:39 PM
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Fishman Aura system makes those undersaddle piezos sound surprisingly tolerable.
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#14
11-14-2018, 05:51 PM
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I have an LR Baggs X-bridge in a Tom Anderson Cobra, which I sometimes run through a Fishman Aura (the original model). It works for me!
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11-14-2018, 06:02 PM
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Andy Powell of Wishbone Ash uses piezo bridges to good effect. He has had them installed on the custom built Flying Vs that replaced his now-retired Gibson. Notice that he blends it with his normal electric sound and has the ability to switch it in and out. Song begins at :34 with him on the V/piezo on the right and Muddy Manninen on the left. Andy switches to pure electric for the dual lead at 2:11 and back to combined electric/piezo for rhythm at 2:23. He continues to go in and out throughout the song.
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