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Old 11-12-2018, 08:43 PM
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Thanks cmd612 for measuring your guitar. Wonder if they make a Mahogany version. I'll check it out.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:11 PM
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Thanks to all. I didn't see the RP2-626C 00 on Recording King's website, so I sent them an email. I had the pleasure of playing one of those Women and Music guitars a few years back. Really nice! Kathy Wingert's guitars are way out of my price range. I'll check out Pono. On the Gibson website, it doesn't give the measurement of the lower bout or the depth or length for the Gibson Parlor Rosewood. It doesn't have to be the exact measurements of a 00, but somewhere near it. Thanks again.
Karen they are not being produced now explaining why you didn't see this model listed on the Recording King website. Schoenberg guitars in Tiburon, Ca. has the RP2-626C listed as he was the designer of this model. https://www.om28.com.
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:52 AM
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Larrivee makes a 00 with a Venetian cutaway in all trim categories.

I think all 00's are special order though.
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:43 AM
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https://www.guitarcenter.com/Recordi...RoCGUEQAvD_BwE

Guitar center still has new ones in stock for $800 and they have a 15% off coupon this week that would take another $120 off for $680+tax . Plenty around on ebay and reverb used in the $500 range. These were $1200 new originally. GC must be on closeout
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:19 AM
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Not sure if they are still offering them but Gibson was building repros of the CF-100. The sexiest Gibson ever made with the Florentine cutaway and Les Paul-style inlays on the board.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:35 AM
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Ripdotcom, that Martin sure is pretty and I'm sure it sounds as good as it looks! Tippy, that's a funny story about the Santa Cruz. Glad you can say "all is well"at the end of it. And thanks Tom and Liberty for the links and Zombywoof for the CF-100 idea. AGF is an amazing resource!
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:18 AM
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Thanks to all. I didn't see the RP2-626C 00 on Recording King's website, so I sent them an email. I had the pleasure of playing one of those Women and Music guitars a few years back. Really nice! Kathy Wingert's guitars are way out of my price range. I'll check out Pono. On the Gibson website, it doesn't give the measurement of the lower bout or the depth or length for the Gibson Parlor Rosewood. It doesn't have to be the exact measurements of a 00, but somewhere near it. Thanks again.
During my search it was really frustrating wondering why a OO cutaway was so hard to find. Even Dreadnaughts and Parlors came with cutaways but OO designers seem to think there is no market for a OO cutaway in spite of the zillions of Taylor Grand Concert cutaways on the walls of every Guitar Center. The Recording King might be your best option, but their quality control is pretty hit and miss and I absolutely hated the vintage width frets that came on my ROS-16. Be sure to play the Pono first. The one I bought sight unseen sounded so boxy I sold it as soon as I got over my deep regret.

I've been in your shoes, spent a few years trying to find a non-Taylor small bodied cutaway and lucked on an eBay Larrivee custom order OOV which was perfect. Scanning eBay for another Larrivee OOV might work, but you'll have to beat me to it
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:34 AM
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no, thats misinformation. a CE is 2" wider than a 00 thats a pretty huge difference as well as the body being 1/4+ deeper and the body maybe 1/2" longer, these are pretty dramatic differences and could not possibly be used as a comparison.
Not sure where your getting your info.
this is from martins and taylor's website.
The CE in 712ce stands for cutaway and electronics. Fyi.
The original post was looking for a cutaway in a similar
size guitar . These dimension differences are not that significant.
And was meant as a suggestion. for the original poster
to consider. Perhaps the 7/8 of an inch in body
width would be too much for her. Perhaps not.
But taylor's grand concert cutaways are readily
available for her to try.
Again i pulled these specs off the martin and taylor web pages. Ymmv.

Martin
00
Total Length 37 3/4"
Body Length 19 5/8"
Body Width 14 1/8"
Body Depth 4 1/16"

Grand Concert taylor
Body Length: 19 1/2" /
Body Width: 15" /
Body Depth: 4 3/8


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Old 11-13-2018, 01:52 PM
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My 000 Martin and my Eastman OM have a body width of 15". Also a body length of 19 1/2" is 000/OM length, 00 body length around 18 7/8" to a little over 19" depending on builder. If Taylor wants to call their 000/OM body size a grand concert that's their business. My 00-18 is significanty smaller than my 000-15m and that size difference must be important to the op.
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Old 11-14-2018, 07:24 AM
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Karen.
I don't have either the martin 00
or a taylor grand concert to measure to see
if they are indeed similar in size. I can only
say their respective websites specs seem pretty close.
Like Sagebrush tom said above these specs can differ depending on the builder.
Taylor uses the word Grand in a lot of their models.
in order of size of their models the GS Mini is the smallest.
then grand concert ,Grand Symphony, Grand Auditorium , Grand Orchestra.
So this can be confusing. But their grand concert is
the smallest guitar they make next to the GS mini ( which is a bit bigger than 0 size parlor)
Again The Taylors grand concert is available
in a lot of local guitar stores. probably more so
then the martin 00. If you have a dealer near
you the guitar model ends in 12 like 412ce, 612ce or 712ce.
They are available in 12 fret cutaways as well.
You could certainly find out easily enough if it's something
you would like . And the "C "in ce means cutaway.
You may find it's too big for you. But you won't know
unless you try.
Good luck in your search.

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Old 11-14-2018, 07:36 AM
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Sorry if I confused you. Here's a great source for Martin Guitars specs:

http://martinrep.com

Maybe this will help clear up whatever mysteries are attached to 00 sized guitars, at least for Martin's.
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:35 AM
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Not sure where your getting your info.
this is from martins and taylor's website.
The CE in 712ce stands for cutaway and electronics. Fyi.
The original post was looking for a cutaway in a similar
size guitar . These dimension differences are not that significant.
And was meant as a suggestion. for the original poster
to consider. Perhaps the 7/8 of an inch in body
width would be too much for her. Perhaps not.
But taylor's grand concert cutaways are readily
available for her to try.
Again i pulled these specs off the martin and taylor web pages. Ymmv.

Martin
00
Total Length 37 3/4"
Body Length 19 5/8"
Body Width 14 1/8"
Body Depth 4 1/16"

Grand Concert taylor
Body Length: 19 1/2" /
Body Width: 15" /
Body Depth: 4 3/8


Sent from my iPhone

Apologies, I was using a 12 fret and perhaps not the 712ce, I assumed all the CE were the same, (thank you for clarifying). Anyway, I suppose we should ask the OP if they want a 12 or 14 fret (I just assumed 12 fret for fingerstyle but it may be all rock and roll). Anyway, it appears that the 712ce has a lot more in common with a 000 than a 00 so really either way, its simply not a traditional 00 style, I have only owned a couple but I always thought of that series to be more of a 000 size, anyway, here are the undoctored numbers, I hope we all see more similarities between the 000 and 712CE

00 12 fret

Body Length 19 5/8"
Body Width 14 1/8"
Body Depth 4 1/16"

00 14 fret
00

Body Length 18 7/8"
Body Width 14 5/16"
Body Depth 4 1/8"

Taylor 714CE
Body Length 19 1/2"
Body Width 15"
Body Depth 4 3/8"

000
Body Length 19 3/8"
Body Width 15"
Body Depth 4 1/8"
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:51 AM
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Let me throw another one in the mix: Blackbird Savoy. It is a small parlor / 00 size guitar with a cutaway, and gets great reviews. I've played one briefly and it is quite nice, with a warm and woody sound. It is made from ekoa composite, which looks a lot like mahogany. Being a composite guitar you won't have to worry about humidity and (mostly) temperature.
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Old 11-14-2018, 02:53 PM
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The newly designed Emerald X10 fits the size cutaway guitar your looking for.
The no neck heel cutaway is very roomy for easy access to higher frets.
The sound hole design and location allow more sound to be directed to the player.
It's constructed of carbon fiber so temperature and humidity fluctuations are never an issue.


Scale Length 25 1/2", 650mm
Nut Width 1 11/16“, 43mm
Bridge Spacing 2 ¼", 57mm
Overall Length 37 3/4“, 960mm
Max Body Width 14 3/4“, 375mm
Max Body Depth 4 3⁄4", 120mm
Max Body Length 18", 457mm
Weight 4lbs, 1.8kg
Frets 24 medium stainless steel frets
Fretboard Radius 12”-16” compound radius


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Old 11-14-2018, 04:15 PM
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The newly designed Emerald X10 fits the size cutaway guitar your looking for.
The no neck heel cutaway is very roomy for easy access to higher frets.
The sound hole design and location allow more sound to be directed to the player.
It's constructed of carbon fiber so temperature and humidity fluctuations are never an issue.


Scale Length 25 1/2", 650mm
Nut Width 1 11/16“, 43mm
Bridge Spacing 2 ¼", 57mm
Overall Length 37 3/4“, 960mm
Max Body Width 14 3/4“, 375mm
Max Body Depth 4 3⁄4", 120mm
Max Body Length 18", 457mm
Weight 4lbs, 1.8kg
Frets 24 medium stainless steel frets
Fretboard Radius 12”-16” compound radius




And don’t forget the insane, I mean that in a good way, amplification options!
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