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A USB mic won't give me the same sound I get from my two ADK mics and mixer, and it won't let me hear everyone else on a Zoom session. I can do direct monitoring from my mixer, but that doesn't let me hear everyone else. As I said, I my get an A/B switch to go between my PC's audio output, so I can listen to others, and the headphone output of my mixer, so I can monitor myself.
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Also, if you are using an audio interface and direct monitoring, then a mic will pick up that sound, with a very short latency, of course, but this can then mess with the Zoom compression too. I use close-mic vocal, DI'd guitar (both through Play Acoustic). I have recorded my sound both with monitor speakers on and off and noticed a very little difference in sound, but it is enough to warrant turning off the monitors while playing. For people using iPads, there is a definite difference in the Zoom sound when they mute their iPad's built-in speaker. I have the monitor feed from my interface going to a Mackie 'Big Knob', so can press one button to mute the speakers, and as its in easy arm's reach, I can adjust volumes when listening to others as there is a big disparity in volumes during a Zoom meeting, depending on what device people are using for sound - for some reason people using a webcam's built-in mic are louder than those using audio interfaces.
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Yes, that's a problem. I use in-ear monitors plugged into the headphone jack on my PC and I have a mouse next to me so I can adjust volume.
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Most webcams have automatic gain control (compression), so they are likely to be louder (and sound bad for music). There's more to configure to get an acceptable sound than just zoom.
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In the Zoom open mics I've done, gain staging has been an issue. Many participants have the gain so high they are distorting. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, Zoom has no mechanism to control this or even show that it's happening.
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There' s a tiny meter on the microphone at the bottom of the screen on the desktop version:
Screen Shot 2020-07-21 at 10.57.44 AM.jpg That part showing green is the audio level. No idea how accurate it is, and it's certainly not very useful, but if I saw it peaking, I'd probably assume something was going on. Skype has better (tho not much) meters, so I sometimes verify my sound levels with that. Then just ask people on the session if things are ok.
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Besides turning on "original sound," Zoom has 3 other filters that get in the way of anything more complex than speech. You can disable the 2 that deal with background noise but not the 1 for echo cancellation. It's either on "auto" or "aggressive." While auto does the least harm, it definitely messes with any music going through the system. That's what I think your are dealing with.
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I have my interface gains adjusted to momentarily bounce into the yellow/orange at the loudest parts.
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