#31
|
|||
|
|||
For truly "occasional" open mic use? Use a microphone... no need to rig your guitar with electronics that cost you an arm and a leg just for "every once in a while".
Would be great if you could get used to a Shure SM-58 or 57, as those would be the workhorse microphones that many open mics would employ. It's eminently "doable" to use one of those and get decent sound. I have Dazzos in both my 6 string and 12 string guitars, and I love 'em! Best sounding pickup I've heard in my 50 years of playing on a stage, especially when I'm both performer and soundman... but they are gonna cost you, and the external preamp by Sunn Audio, while excellent, is quite pricey, as well. Not counting installation of the Dazzos (Teddy will do it for free, if you're in the general Bay Area), you're looking at around $700. Seems a bit steep for occasional use, plus there is always a learning curve with a pickup system; you're going to have to use it to get used to it and get the sound you want. Seriously - go with a microphone, and not some high priced mic, either, as that is not the kind of mic you will be using at your generic open mic. Coming to this Forum and asking your question is a bit akin to asking a bunch of alcoholics if you should drink, or not...
__________________
"Home is where I hang my hat, but home is so much more than that. Home is where the ones and the things I hold dear are near... And I always find my way back home." "Home" (working title) J.S, Sherman |
#32
|
|||
|
|||
^^^
Personally I don’t see a microphone as the best option for open mics. While it can make for the best sound and simplicity, you are at the mercy of the sound man, equipment, venue, etc. In my open mic world, the performers that need to be mic’d generally face some sort of issue—mainly not being heard. And that’s with a decent sound man with decent equipment. Having performed live with only mic’s for many years, it takes practice at dialing things in, and you generally need to control things—it’s very hit-or-miss at an open mic. I’ve also found that outboard gear is frowned on. Personally I’d go with a mag pickup that doesn’t require any external equipment, if you don’t have an instrument with electronics installed. |
#33
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
|
#34
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
2007 Martin D 35 Custom 1970 Guild D 35 1965 Epiphone Texan 2011 Santa Cruz D P/W Pono OP 30 D parlor Pono OP12-30 Pono MT uke Goldtone Paul Beard squareneck resophonic Fluke tenor ukulele Boatload of home rolled telecasters "Shut up and play ur guitar" Frank Zappa |
#35
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
2007 Martin D 35 Custom 1970 Guild D 35 1965 Epiphone Texan 2011 Santa Cruz D P/W Pono OP 30 D parlor Pono OP12-30 Pono MT uke Goldtone Paul Beard squareneck resophonic Fluke tenor ukulele Boatload of home rolled telecasters "Shut up and play ur guitar" Frank Zappa |
#36
|
|||
|
|||
Yes, but I’ve observed problems when some sound guys mic up an instrument, usually related to getting enough output out of the instrument before feedback. But perhaps the open mics you attend are different—at the ones I’ve attended the majority of folks plug in, and when someone needs to be mic’d there tend to be problems. I just don’t feel that I could count on good results just showing up expecting to be well-mic’d. YMMV
|
#37
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
2007 Martin D 35 Custom 1970 Guild D 35 1965 Epiphone Texan 2011 Santa Cruz D P/W Pono OP 30 D parlor Pono OP12-30 Pono MT uke Goldtone Paul Beard squareneck resophonic Fluke tenor ukulele Boatload of home rolled telecasters "Shut up and play ur guitar" Frank Zappa |
#38
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
|
#39
|
|||
|
|||
Yes, you are always at the mercy of the sound guy in the end. At our open mic, when we get back to it, we have a dedicated SM 57 available. It is fine. We have two channels of SunnAudio DI. We have a channel dedicated for Taylors' ES system, and two SM 58s. We can and do accommodate a small group, as long as the drummer brings a cajon. I occasionally play mandolin through the 57. We have monitors. Me and the main host are gear heads. We get paid to host and upgraded the house system to include QSCs with those proceeds, and several regulars chipped in. From feedback, we are the exception. It's a serious avocation for us. Hope to get back to it. People are amazed they can hear themselves.
__________________
2007 Martin D 35 Custom 1970 Guild D 35 1965 Epiphone Texan 2011 Santa Cruz D P/W Pono OP 30 D parlor Pono OP12-30 Pono MT uke Goldtone Paul Beard squareneck resophonic Fluke tenor ukulele Boatload of home rolled telecasters "Shut up and play ur guitar" Frank Zappa |
#40
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
|
#41
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
When we all get back to it (can't wait!), Cameron's Pub & Inn in Half Moon Bay, CA is where you want to be on Thursday nights starting at 7:00PM. Last edited by 6L6; 03-01-2021 at 06:02 PM. |
#42
|
|||
|
|||
Open Mics are awesome and I still go play one occasionally even though I'm gigging every weekend. But the main thing with an OM is to keep it simple. Plug in and go. I always take a guitar with the most forgiving pickup installed so I can just plug in and start playing. Your guitar will sound "good" but not up to your standards and that's ok because the audience will never know the difference and your performance is only going to last 15 - 30 minutes. If they already have a mic set up, play into it, but most OMs I've been to expect you to plug in and go. Also the less you have to fiddle with your equipment, the more relaxed you'll be for your performance.
__________________
'59 Gibson J-45 "Spot" '21 Gibson LG-2 - 50's Reissue '94 Taylor 710 '18 Martin 000-17E "Willie" ‘23 Taylor AD12e-SB '22 Taylor GTe Blacktop '15 Martin 000X1AE https://pandora.app.link/ysqc6ey22hb |
#43
|
|||
|
|||
I also recently got a D-28 and went through the whole pickup preamp thing.
Tried the K&K pure mini, the LRB M80, and the Schatten HFN. I settled on the Schatten HFN as it sounded the best and is the least intrusive. Still had to drill the hole for the end pin jack. That pickup paired with my LRB venue DI sounds amazing, and would give you full control at an open mic. The LRB M80 is also a great sound hole pickup and I even kept that one for a backup. The only thing I did not like was having the thing in my sound hole, and it does dampen the guitar acoustically a little. Good luck.
__________________
~Bob~ Martin D-28 Satin Fender American Ultra Telecaster |
#44
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
_____________________ Martin HD28 w/Dazzo 60s Martin OM28 w/Dazzos 60s Taylor 562CE Taylor 214CE DLX Amalio Burguet Vanessa Fender Player Stratocaster HSS Plus Timberline T60HGpc Kolaloha KTM-000 with MiSi SunnAudio MS-2 Digital Piano Yamaha P515 Grand Piano Yamaha C3 DPA 4488 |
#45
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
I tried the HFN with the tape and the putty. I like the tape better so I switched back to it.
__________________
~Bob~ Martin D-28 Satin Fender American Ultra Telecaster |