Unhappy with new Bose S1 Pro

tnvolfan5 · #1 08-22-2021, 07:47 AM

"A" string hums like heck with my Seagull Entourage and Ibanez AEG12ii (only acoustic guitars I own). The only way I can get it to stop humming is to turn the bass all the way down on the Bose and the guitar, which I don't think I should have to do. Straight in to the Bose, no effects. I've moved the amp and my mic stand all different directions, some positions help some but not much.

Never had a problem with my Fishman LoudBox Mini.

Help! Thank you.

jklotz · #2 08-22-2021, 07:50 AM

I was getting that on my gig yesterday. I had it in the tilted up position. Somebody suggested I try it flat and raised or in the monitor position, as it has an internal eq that changes depending on how you have it positioned. You might want to try that.

shufflebeat · #3 08-22-2021, 08:13 AM

Obvious stuff first, are you using a soundhole plug (feedback buster)?

Goat Mick · #4 08-22-2021, 08:38 AM

I’ve played around 100 gigs with my S1 Pro and have never had that issue. What size room are you playing?

shufflebeat · #5 08-22-2021, 08:56 AM

Also, what's the pickup in the Seagull?

tnvolfan5 · #6 08-22-2021, 10:08 AM

The Seagull pickup is the Godin factory installed. Nothing in the soundhole of either guitars. The Ibanez is a Fishman factory installed.

UPDATE: The reverb knob got turned up by accident (bumped, probably) and by turning it all the way off, that did help quite a bit, but not completely.

jklotz · #7 08-22-2021, 10:24 AM

A couple of comments from another post:

The tilt back position is great for low volume gigs in small rooms but its not best for all situations. I use a miniature speaker stand when I need more volume with less bass. Also if you don’t want to carry a stand the monitor position works really well too.
__________________

Even getting the amp up off the ground a little bit, like a foot, the tilt-back position seems to work much better. There's just something about it being directly on the ground where I noticed an excess of bass and feedback issues. Weird.

tnvolfan5 · #8 08-22-2021, 10:29 AM

Thanks, jklotz. With all the great reviews the Bose S1 Pro gets, I thought I was doing something stupid. Imma gonna try a stand and see what happens.

shufflebeat · #9 08-22-2021, 11:32 AM

Best solution might be an accumulation of small improvements. I'd suggest a soundhole plug is cheap, reversable and effective.

RogerPease · #10 08-22-2021, 04:10 PM

Note: On a stand is actually the EQ position with the most bass.
Standing on it’s end not tilted back has less bass.
Turned on its side in the monitor position also has less bass but I forget which of the last two is the least.

But point is to try different positions to see which works best for you.

Cheers, _Roger

capefisherman · #11 08-23-2021, 03:30 AM

Get it off the floor and try the MIC setting rather than the guitar setting. Using a good quality pre-amp will also help - a lot. I use the Grace Alix and have no feedback problems whatsoever unless the S1 is behind me.

shufflebeat · #12 08-23-2021, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerPease

Note: On a stand is actually the EQ position with the most bass.

Worth bearing in mind that the space is part of the system and putting the s1 on the floor will also have an effect, not unlike putting studio monitors in the corner of the room* rather than a little distance away from any walls, as usually recommended, or "box" resonance from a non-concrete floor.

Hard to say how apparent any effect would be depending on surface, etc. but it won't be zero.

*This often results in a "one note" bass resonance which it's difficult to otherwise treat.

hotroad · #13 08-23-2021, 11:28 AM

a simple preamp/eq helps the Bose a lot.

Methos1979 · #14 08-24-2021, 06:55 AM

Are you engaging the ToneMatch switch? Left in the off position a guitar straight in will often sound bad and have feedback issues without external preamp and EQ. I generally find the best position is the Mic position, even for guitar. I also have found that I dial the treble and bass back to about the 10-11 o'clock position and reverb just barely up enough to hear. Every guitar/pickup system will be different, as with any amp or PA. I have no experience with your guitars and don't know their pickup systems. The only guitar that I've ever been able to plug straight into the Bose and get great tone out of with everything set flat is a Cole Clark. Try my settings along with the ToneMatch set to the Mic position (all the way forward) and report back how that goes.

jklotz · #15 08-24-2021, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methos1979

Are you engaging the ToneMatch switch? Left in the off position a guitar straight in will often sound bad and have feedback issues without external preamp and EQ. I generally find the best position is the Mic position, even for guitar. I also have found that I dial the treble and bass back to about the 10-11 o'clock position and reverb just barely up enough to hear.

I just tried that. Works great! Thanks for posting. Heck, I've had this thing for 6 months and never thought to try the mic position.