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Old 06-26-2019, 10:15 AM
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I mentioned that, at my request, Tom was doing something special with the finish on the neck.

I’ve found that when I play a guitar with a neck that has a glossy finish, it tends to grip my hand slightly when I change chord positions, producing faint but audible squeaks. In the mandolin world we eliminate this by what are called “speed necks”, similar to the barely-there finishes on violin necks. Many mandolin builders will provide speed necks on their instruments on request, and it’s also a fairly common after-market modification. Basically, the finish & stain are removed from the neck down to the bare wood and it’s then given a very light sealer. The procedure works well and feels silky smooth, but it does look a bit strange on an instrument that has a stain and glossy finish everywhere else. Here’s a pic of the speed neck on my Michael Heiden mandolin done by the builder himself.




I asked Tom for something that felt similar, but integrated better visually with the rest of the guitar, so when the body was sent off to California to have the French polish finish applied, Tom kept the neck to apply the finish himself. The headplate, backplate and heel cap will get a glossy French polish finish, while the back of the neck will have a satin finish.

Here you can see that the neck has had a black pore fill applied that really makes the mahogany’s grain pop with dimension and contrast. I’ve seen a few guitars that have had a similar treatment and I really like the look. More to come...



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Old 06-27-2019, 12:01 PM
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Nice touch, Jim.

My McCarty has a raw (or close to) BRW neck. It feels so nice and like you say; silent and precise.

Tom, sign me up!

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I mentioned previously that, at my request, Tom was doing something special with the finish on the neck.

I’ve found that when I play a guitar with a neck that has a glossy finish, it tends to grip my hand slightly when I change chord positions, producing faint but audible squeaks. In the mandolin world we eliminate this by what are called “speed necks”, similar to the barely-there finishes on violin necks. Many mandolin builders will provide speed necks on their instruments by request, and it’s also a fairly common after-market modification. Basically, the finish & stain are removed from the neck down to the bare wood and it’s then given a very light sealer. The procedure works well and feels silky smooth, but it does look a bit strange on an instrument that has a stain and glossy finish everywhere else. Here’s a pic of the speed neck on my Michael Heiden mandolin done by the builder himself.




I asked Tom for something that felt similar, but integrated better visually with the rest of the guitar, so when the body was sent off to California to have the French polish finish applied, Tom kept the neck to apply the finish himself. The headplate, backplate and heel cap will get a glossy French polish finish, while the back of the neck will have a satin finish.

Here you can see that the neck has had a black pore fill applied that really makes the mahogany’s grain pop with dimension and contrast. I’ve seen a few guitars that have had a similar treatment and I really like the look. More to come...



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Old 06-28-2019, 05:07 AM
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Nice touch, Jim.

My McCarty has a raw (or close to) BRW neck. It feels so nice and like you say; silent and precise.
A Braz. neck? Hmmm... With just about everything else on this guitar being Brazilian rosewood, I may have missed an opportunity here...
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Here, Tom’s holding a ‘fad’, made of absorbent cotton or wool cloth wadding inside of a piece of soft fabric (usually cotton) and used for applying the French polish finish.




The backplate, before & after the French polish is applied…






…and the headplate. These two 'after' shots give the first indication of what this particular flitch of Brazilian rosewood will look like under finish.



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Elegant and functional: love it!
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First looks at the neck’s satin finish. Hope it plays as good as it looks. The French polished body should be heading back to Tom next week. Next up: bridge & fretwork.



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Since someone asked, this guitar will also have a passive Schatten HFN pickup installed internally on the bridgeplate.
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The body is back from California with a beautiful, shiny new French polish finish.




Gotta love the colors in this set of Brazilian rosewood. Tom tells me it was probably harvested in the 1920's, nearly 100 years ago. Perfectly quarter-sawn wood with that much age on it makes it a bit more fragile, but with sustain and overtones superior to any other wood in his stash.




Very pleased with the rosette's rich colors under finish...

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...Gotta love the colors in this set of Brazilian rosewood. Tom tells me it was probably harvested in the 1920's, nearly 100 years ago. Perfectly quarter-sawn wood with that much age on it makes it a bit more fragile, but with sustain and overtones superior to any other wood in his stash.
These recent comments from luthier Mark Hatcher give a little more insight on working with 100-year old wood:

The wood rings better and ... coloring becomes much richer. Also, the internal stresses relax out (sometimes by cracking) but whatever it wanted do it pretty much has done leaving a much more stable board. There are other aspects to this too. Heat and humidity make wood expand and shrink. This reaction is reduced with repeated cycles. As wood matures it gains a more musical and complex sound quality and the sustain increases.
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Won't be long now! You've got to be pretty excited!
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Won't be long now! You've got to be pretty excited!
Ahem. Understatement.
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One of the most beautiful sets of Braz I"ve ever seen!! The word, Masterpiece, is not an over statement for this instrument!
Just amazing, Jim!
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One of the most beautiful sets of Braz I"ve ever seen!! The word, Masterpiece, is not an overstatement for this instrument!
I told Tom to select the wood based on its tonal potential, and if he thought a certain back & sides set was best to meet our sonic goal, whatever it looked like would be fine with me. But having said that, I’m very pleased that the best-sounding set also looked this beautiful.

Nowadays, with so much of the Brazilian rosewood we see from builders being stump wood, having a lot of dramatic figuring, or wood repurposed from furniture, old house beams, etc. due to its scarcity, I’m still pleasantly surprised that some builders still have old-growth Braz. sets this well-quartered, this old, and this straight-grained for use in new instruments. I think the few imperfections in the grain and variations in the colors were just a bonus that add character to the wood. Here’s another shot of the back without quite so much reflection obscuring the grain. Click on it to see a closeup.

Can’t wait to see it in person.

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