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It took me a lot of money and a lot of years to figure out what works best for me. In retrospect, I could have saved myself a lot of time, cash, and aggravation by booking time in a quality studio 15-20 years ago and demo-ing all the usual suspects (49, 87, 47, 67, and whatever else they might have). Had I done that, my search for the right mic would have had more focus and I probably could have avoided those unfortunate SolidTube years.
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When I track my vocals, I wind up gesturing, stretching my arms over my head, and frequently breaking into tears even on songs or sections of songs that aren't that emotionally intense. Singing is one of the most visceral things that we do, as musicians and as humans. |
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I don't know what "SolidTube" years are The search for "THE" mic is usually never easy. But there is a lot of wisdom in either booking time in a well equipped studio (with multiple quality mic types) or finding places to rent good high quality mic's from .. Even if as an amateur one is never going to spend multi thousands for a mic , the above experience will at least give one an idea of what type, model, and or brand of mic, to as you say focus your search for a less expensive alternative to be modeled on... Plus as I mentioned I think what experience taught me was there is a huge difference between mics that work adequately for live use, and what works equally as well for recording
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I was referring to the years when my main vocal mic was an AKG SolidTube.
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Good article. Great thread. Thanks KevWind and all contributors!
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I played acoustic guitar and sang folksy songs in the 60's and guitar in a rock band in the 70's but did not sing much. After a career, marriage, kids, etc I decided last year to take advantage of modern DAW's, get tuned up, learn the other instruments and make an album that is all me. I had a lot to learn, was rusty as hell and my voice range is now more limited with age (66). I started off picking rock songs that I liked as a guitarist, songs that are fun to play but I never sang. I got all caught up in the mechanics of it and in learning bass, keyboards, drum loops, etc. Well after I laid down my first two songs I went to record the vocals and guess what? I had not adequately tested the key and range of the songs, especially with the harmonies and I was really stuck. I also did not know about pitch shifting back then. I had to bash my way through those songs and got feedback like " your guitar work is solid but do you know any other singers"
For the next few songs I cut a "demo" first where I could see if I have the technical chops, if its "right" and if I can sing it and if so in what key organically or shifted in the DAW if necessary. I started burning through song demos like a woman trying on wedding dresses in front of her brides maids! Crap. Nope. Ouch, that sucks. Bingo - that one works! As I progressed through my "album" (it's a bucket list thing), my songs got better and better and the feedback from my mentors got better and better and you know what? The best feedback I get is when I sing the old acoustic stuff that I played in the early seventies in college, songs that I screened and selected 50 years ago using the popularity with the ladies if you know what I mean as the ultimate screening process. I'm not going to win any Grammy's, I know that I am a mediocre talent but I enjoy doing this and I still want the best I can offer. I suffered a great loss recently and Covid isolation has not been good but music has been a good friend, saved me actually. To the point of this thread, you have to work and be selective to find how to use the voice you have effectively. I also agree that you need to find the right microphone match for you. If I sing through a detailed revealing mic I sound crappy. I need a softer mic in certain frequencies, it "helps" me along. That and Melodyne - that's not a cure all but a miracle drug for sure. At my age and with what I have been through I don't care what tricks I need to sound passable, fixing pitch, shifting timing, ... I'm not interviewing for a studio musician job I'm just hacking around in my garage trying to get something together that works. When my wife would put on make up to go out was that cheating? I don't know she looked pretty darn good to me and she liked it! Well she looked good to me all the time but I digress. LOL. George |
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It's funny that you should say it that way because I started this in part so that I would leave something behind that would endure, that would be eternal George |
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Best of luck to you George! - Glenn
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But your phrasing immediately popped these thought provoking lyrics from Dougie MacLean's song "Feel So Near" "So we build our tower constructions there to mark our place in time We justify our great destructions as on we climb on we climb."
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Oh please don't misunderstand, it was just wording of the phrase (not the intention or the product ) that flashed me to the song lyrics. And I do think marking a place in time with art, is not destructive . And I believe DM's lyrics were more of a nod to ill thought out environmental impacts .
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With my new found knowledge and experience, I'm willing to try to sing ideas that I've had for a while that I just couldn't make work before. Just trying to help my voice be all it can be... in the process, I'm even finding a thing or two I like about my voice in addition to all its flaws.
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