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Old 01-10-2018, 02:26 AM
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Another iP1000 owner here...glad to see another!

I have some thoughts regarding the prominence of the upper end of the spectrum you're hearing.

I don't know if the L1C has a tweeter in it, but I know the Eon One doesn't. A more suitable comparison can probably be drawn between the L1C and the iP500 if that is the case. The presence of the tweeter alone shifts the balance of the sound considerably. Were you to grow accustomed to hearing it, switching to something without would perhaps sound duller by comparison. Food for thought.

Each of the midrange drivers and indeed the tweeter have their own crossovers (it may be in pairs...unsure on that part). If you play some material through it at low enough volume to get your ear right up to the grill, you'll distinctly hear the lower drivers covering the lower midrange, and on up the tower to the tweeter.

It stands to reason that if you perform close to the tower, you are likely not getting that full spread of frequencies that might be more apparent just a few feet out.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:48 AM
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* I'm jus chimin in cuz I like Gary's videos! Always consistent, fun to listen to, and that fiddle back D18 is freakin awesome!

** Nice playing bro, PEF version is chillax cool. ...so as I said on the phone I think the Bose sounds more natural and unplugged; very nice for the venue your in. However, if I was playing at a more uptempo venue, I would use and prefer the punchier tone of the Turbo.

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Old 01-10-2018, 08:02 AM
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In regards to the ToneMatch T1 Mixer. (Bose)

As a fairly new L1 Compact user (I also own the T1) ...
In a Solo acoustic guitarist/singer -- small venue performance situation.
I do not find a huge amount of "value" in the T1.

Yes it sounds fantastic, easy to use and has ton of versatility /functions.

But I find my Guitar+Mic into >>TCH Play Acoustic >> Bose L1C works "just" as well or better.

Again, this has to do with solo "gig" sound and ease of use.
Not pristine studio situations or perhaps bigger venues (which I have not played).

Gary's sound and rig including the Fishman Platinum EQ sounds fantastic as well.

Interestingly, I am finding myself wanting to scale back...
In fact, I am considering going with a Boss AD-2 Preamp, Boss Tuner and TCH Harmony Singer pedal.
Although, I prob could use an EQ too ..brings me back to the TC Play Acoustic ...
Which for me covers a lot of ground (vocals and guitar effects) for the $.

This post was mainly for anyone considering the Bose L1C ,,,The T1 is not necessary ..
In fact in my case it's redundant in many areas... Except the mixer. Which I do not get with pedals alone.

Of course IMO and YMMV .. Please don't forget to tip your servers and bartenders ...

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I do not use a Tonematch. My guitar signal chain is:

Shure GLXD Wireless-> TC Helicon Harmony singer (Guitar pass thru) ->Fishman Platinum Pro EQ preamp - > Diamond ML JR Delay -> Boss Waza Chorus - > Boss RV-6 Reverb -> EHX 720 Stereo Looper (Used in Mono)

All that said, all pedals were off except for the Fishman Platinum Pro EQ preamp. That lets me shape my sound if needed for varying sonic spaces. Mostly set eq flat which sounds very identical to plugging in directly. I scooped the mids from Noon (Center detent) to 11 o'clock. Bass at Noon (Center detent) and Treble at Noon (Center), Brialliance rolled down to 10 o'clock.

In some venues, I am standing even a little bit closer to the Bose. That is when the Bose clearly is superior to the Turbosound. The Bose disperses evenly and the volume to the 2nd row of tables (20') is very similar to what I hear standing right in front of the Bose. In this regard, it is the best nearfield monitor I could hope for ..and doesn't rip my head off if I need more volume.

The Turbosound is more like a traditional loudspeaker. Its HOT right in front and volume falls off the further out you go. Its still very good, but not as even and friendly as the Bose. (if that makes sense?)
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:31 AM
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Another iP1000 owner here...glad to see another!

I have some thoughts regarding the prominence of the upper end of the spectrum you're hearing.

I don't know if the L1C has a tweeter in it, but I know the Eon One doesn't. A more suitable comparison can probably be drawn between the L1C and the iP500 if that is the case. The presence of the tweeter alone shifts the balance of the sound considerably. Were you to grow accustomed to hearing it, switching to something without would perhaps sound duller by comparison. Food for thought.

Each of the midrange drivers and indeed the tweeter have their own crossovers (it may be in pairs...unsure on that part). If you play some material through it at low enough volume to get your ear right up to the grill, you'll distinctly hear the lower drivers covering the lower midrange, and on up the tower to the tweeter.

It stands to reason that if you perform close to the tower, you are likely not getting that full spread of frequencies that might be more apparent just a few feet out.
Just checked the specs and the Compact stick indeed doesn't have a tweeter--just the six 2-inch drivers. Interesting thought about the difference between that and the IP1000.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:53 AM
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Growers, what is attached to the top of the Compact tower? Kind of looks like a mic or small light.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:13 AM
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Groberts, what is attached to the top of the Compact tower? Kind of looks like a mic or small light.
Oh yeah, I forgot to turn it on. It is a Mighty Bright Clip on LED Light. The bose Tower has an indentation that allows to clip onto the top of the tower. Helps add a little more light in dark spaces. Didn't really need it at this venue. If it would have been darker, I probably would have remembered to turn it on.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:24 AM
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In regards to the ToneMatch T1 Mixer. (Bose)

As a fairly new L1 Compact user (I also own the T1) ...
In a Solo acoustic guitarist/singer -- small venue performance situation.
I do not find a huge amount of "value" in the T1.

Yes it sounds fantastic, easy to use and has ton of versatility /functions.

But I find my Guitar+Mic into >>TCH Play Acoustic >> Bose L1C works "just" as well or better.

Again, this has to do with solo "gig" sound and ease of use.
Not pristine studio situations or perhaps bigger venues (which I have not played).

Gary's sound and rig including the Fishman Platinum EQ sounds fantastic as well.

Interestingly, I am finding myself wanting to scale back...
In fact, I am considering going with a Boss AD-2 Preamp, Boss Tuner and TCH Harmony Singer pedal.
Although, I prob could use an EQ too ..brings me back to the TC Play Acoustic ...
Which for me covers a lot of ground (vocals and guitar effects) for the $.

This post was mainly for anyone considering the Bose L1C ,,,The T1 is not necessary ..
In fact in my case it's redundant in many areas... Except the mixer. Which I do not get with pedals alone.

Of course IMO and YMMV .. Please don't forget to tip your servers and bartenders ...
Thanks for sharing Jake. I'm glad you shared about the Bose L1 Compact o this thread. That system is still my 'preference' and I agree, the T1 Tonematch mixer or any other mixer are not necessary nor does the system really sound much better or different. Especially true for Solo act. If you need more channels than two, either the Turbosound IP1000 or Bose L1 Compact need an external mixer.

I love using the Fishman Platinum Pro EQ pedalboard preamp. It makes plugging into any system highly configurable for ultimate tone shaping if the venue needs anything.

The Boss AD-2/Harmony Singer/tuner would totally work. The Plat Pro EQ has a tuner built in, but I prefer the tuner in my Shure GLXD wireless foot pedal receiver. (or TC Polytune mini+ is a great foot pedal tuner as well)

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Old 01-12-2018, 10:14 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot to turn it on. It is a Mighty Bright Clip on LED Light. The bose Tower has an indentation that allows to clip onto the top of the tower. Helps add a little more light in dark spaces. Didn't really need it at this venue. If it would have been darker, I probably would have remembered to turn it on.


That's a great idea, nice back light. I hate playing in the dark almost as much as carrying lighting gear around.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:39 AM
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That's a great idea, nice back light. I hate playing in the dark almost as much as carrying lighting gear around.
Which is why I have my shoulder bag with a pair of ADJ rechargeable LED stagelights and a pair of their micro lasers. Hate playing in the dark and with the compact (heavy, but compact) bag carrying all the essentials, I never do gigs in the dark and it's a piece of cake to set them up and haul them about.
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