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I see maybe my eyes were tricked by the angle. It seems mic placement is like 70% of the recording game 😀
Yes indeed see the added video in my post above
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Old 09-20-2023, 07:00 PM
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To be clear I am not using all 4 mics. Like I said earlier 2 will be used for rythym and 2 for solos. Micing a guitar with 4 mics in a room is crazy ..I know at least this much.
Just as a note on "crazy", Tommy Emmanuel has a Youtube video of him recording in the studio and he relates using 5 mics AND the internal pickup on his guitar.

We should all sound so bad.


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Old 09-20-2023, 07:24 PM
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Just as a note on "crazy", Tommy Emmanuel has a Youtube video of him recording in the studio and he relates using 5 mics AND the internal pickup on his guitar.

We should all sound so bad.

Thanks for sharing. I saw it done but with a studio setup, the expertise to avoid phasing and decent preamp. I have a zoom H6 which I am learning of its noise floor limitations 😀
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Old 09-20-2023, 07:27 PM
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Yes indeed see the added video in my post above
Got it. Steel strings are also much louder making controlling room reflections more challenging I bet
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Just as a note on "crazy", Tommy Emmanuel has a Youtube video of him recording in the studio and he relates using 5 mics AND the internal pickup on his guitar.

We should all sound so bad.


For all those mics, you'd hope to get a more solid low end. I think there were some phase issues that thinned out the tone. Further proving that just because he knows how to play doesn't mean he's an equally talented engineer
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Old 09-21-2023, 08:46 PM
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Question for everyone:

1 very long microphone bar to place the 2 LDCs and SDCs on it like this one below (on one stand)?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071G2H4J7...v_ov_lig_dp_it

OR get two not so long mic bars with two separate stands?

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Old 09-21-2023, 10:22 PM
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I think just two separate stands is more versatile, skipping the bar. But then I only record using spaced pairs or just one mic on one stand when it's mono.
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Old 09-22-2023, 10:02 AM
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I think just two separate stands is more versatile, skipping the bar. But then I only record using spaced pairs or just one mic on one stand when it's mono.
Totally agree.

We all want to make our recording space the easiest to set up and use. However the most profound lesson I have learned about mic positions(of which I learned right here on AGF recording) is how one inch difference in mic placement, or a slightly different angle can make a defining difference in your recorded sound.

I have even tried to get creative with this one stand contraption. And...it kind of worked...giving me most of the variables that two separate stands have to offer. In the end..it was more hassle than it was worth. Still did not give me the freedom to change positions quickly and easily that two separate stands have to offer.

Sometimes simple is better. As where this set up was complicated. With two separate stands you can change positions so easily.

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Old 09-22-2023, 03:16 PM
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I think just two separate stands is more versatile, skipping the bar. But then I only record using spaced pairs or just one mic on one stand when it's mono.
I agree too but was wondering if there was a more space saving option.
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Old 09-22-2023, 06:40 PM
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Another question - shall i go with this bar?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ND0AKV7...lig_dp_it&th=1

OR this one (i already have one of this already)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ZO5Z4...roduct_details


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Old 09-23-2023, 11:39 AM
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If you recorded seated, you can save space (and money) by buying two short mic stands like these.
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Old 09-23-2023, 12:34 PM
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If you recorded seated, you can save space (and money) by buying two short mic stands like these.
Thwnk you. Yes I record sitting down. But not sure you read the thread, I am looking to mount 4 mics in 2 pairs and that is why I need 2 bars.
The stand you have can only support one mic, not even 1 pair unless I am missing something.
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Thwnk you. Yes I record sitting down. But not sure you read the thread, I am looking to mount 4 mics in 2 pairs and that is why I need 2 bars.
The stand you have can only support one mic, not even 1 pair unless I am missing something.
Actually as pictured that stand has just the thread end so you can put a single mic holder or you can put a spreader bar for 2 mic's on it
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...ipod-with-boom
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Old 09-24-2023, 07:59 PM
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Thwnk you. Yes I record sitting down. But not sure you read the thread, I am looking to mount 4 mics in 2 pairs and that is why I need 2 bars.
The stand you have can only support one mic, not even 1 pair unless I am missing something.
I was going along with the suggestion for two stands being more versatile, rather than a bar. But if you're doing 4 mics at once, yeah, four stands, even little ones, isn't really practical.
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Old 09-24-2023, 08:51 PM
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I was going along with the suggestion for two stands being more versatile, rather than a bar. But if you're doing 4 mics at once, yeah, four stands, even little ones, isn't really practical.
I am not using 4 microphones at once, I am using a tereo pair at a time
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