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Old 10-01-2023, 07:17 AM
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The 517 would be heavier than the AD17 because of the iron bark back and sides.

The urban iron bark adds slight weight due to its extreme density. It seems like it shouldnít really be bothersome itís just something you can notice if you A/B pickup two Taylors of the same body style.

Itís not like they weigh as much as a heavy electric guitar or something.

I think a lot of these new Andy Powers designs are intentionally warmer than the older Taylors. Every GP guitar Iíve tried seemed to be warm. I have a new 514ce and itís quite warm fa Taylor I think. Unfortunately the ES2 sounds way brighter than the acoustic sound of the guitar, Iím still trying to figure that out.
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Old 10-01-2023, 07:52 AM
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The 517 would be heavier than the AD17 because of the iron bark back and sides.

The urban iron bark adds slight weight due to its extreme density. It seems like it shouldn’t really be bothersome it’s just something you can notice if you A/B pickup two Taylors of the same body style.

It’s not like they weigh as much as a heavy electric guitar or something.

I think a lot of these new Andy Powers designs are intentionally warmer than the older Taylors. Every GP guitar I’ve tried seemed to be warm. I have a new 514ce and it’s quite warm fa Taylor I think. Unfortunately the ES2 sounds way brighter than the acoustic sound of the guitar, I’m still trying to figure that out.
Except that the 517 has traditional mahogany back and sides rather than ironbark. Some guitars just have denser sets of wood, and the ES2 definitely adds mass as well.

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Old 10-01-2023, 08:04 AM
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Still have my black-top AD17e I got after it was a NAMM demo. Been a solid, stable daily player for a couple years now. Iíve settled on Stringjoy coated lights, and am really happy with it. Dont ask me WHY- not a huge Taylor fanÖnot a black top fan, nor that shapeÖ..but as we all know, some guitars just feel right, regardless.
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Since I bought my 1st gen AD17 blacktop...I haven't even thought about trying another guitar for over a year and I came from an Alvarez MD60BG
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Old 10-01-2023, 04:09 PM
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Old 10-02-2023, 07:52 AM
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Except that the 517 has traditional mahogany back and sides rather than ironbark. Some guitars just have denser sets of wood, and the ES2 definitely adds mass as well.
Guess I got confused due to the BE and non-BE having totally different side/back woods and the thread talking about the two guitars interchangably.
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Old 10-02-2023, 07:57 AM
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I've thought about trading my Martin Sc-13e for a Taylor after I check out several Taylors. After hearing others play a Taylor they seem to have a better sound especially in the bass strings. I think my Martin is decent but may be overrated. I've had issues with inside tuner too.
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Old 10-02-2023, 09:11 AM
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The SC-13e is not intended to be fully representative of the Martin sound. It's intended to compete with Taylor and others for playability. I would not be surprised if you liked the sound of some of the Taylors over the SC-13e.
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I have a 717eBE and still play it, a lot. The neck is beefier than other guitars I have but is comfortable. Plugged in the ES2 sound is not my favorite but with some eq through a decent pedal (I use a Baggs Venue) it is ok. Sometimes I slip my Black Angel sound hole pickup in and either use it alone or combine it with the ES2 using separate channels in the mixer and get good results. I have had a couple of Taylor dreds and enjoyed them, but I like the round shouldered look. I really like the satin finish. The look and feel is great and Iíve never had the slipping issue while seated. I always use a strap at a gig even if Iím sitting - which Iím doing more of - so that may help. All in all an excellent guitar with a great build quality.
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I have a 717be since 2020 and love it. The neck is perfect, i like the satin finish and the only downside for me is the weight of the guitar.
All the v-class Taylor's are a little stiff at first, kind of like a straight braced guitar, but once it starts to open up it's magical.
It's great with new strings and, for me, even better with old ones. Very versatile guitars and fun to play.
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Old 10-04-2023, 01:09 AM
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My 717 BE is such a unique acoustic guitar, actually a masterpiece.......beautiful construction, tone, new at the time V bracing, torrefied top, wood bindings and that compound carve neck and the other BE features! Including THAT case!

I think the only mistake Taylor made was releasing all the other (cheaper - less features) Grand Pacific models....they should have let the 717 BE run alone for a few years....it seems to have taken a back seat lately.

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Old 10-04-2023, 04:22 AM
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Since we have the AD crowds' attention What are you using on the satin wood? polish? or ?
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