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On the ones I have seen there is not enough room for a floating pickup. Either the fretboard is very slightly elevated or glued right to the top.
Rather than cut a hole in the top I did use one of these on the Regal in the video. It worked well. http://www.lacemusic.com/USA_Acoustic.php |
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A while ago I bought a bottom of the barrel "Amplificator" that if I were to guess, I'd say it was a rebranded Stella. Needed a reset, a refret, and tuners. It had painted on binding and fake flame maple paint. I believe it to be late 40s early 50s.
I took the back off, shaved the braces some, and glued a set of JJB pickups under the bridge area. I jacked the neck back into position and reglued the back on. I had to then trim the back which was overhanging the sides about 1/4 inch. I then bound the guitar in real plain white binding and used Gibson type frets on it. It has a very funky tone, and the pickups work great. Loud, brash and very little sustain. It is great for old time and Americana music. Almost all of these are in horrible disrepair but worth fixing yourself. Now Harmony made some really nice electrics like the Meteor. Well worth having for sure.
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aging a Harmony Patrician
Hi all,
I just found a beauty of a Harmony Patrician that bears no serial number, that i can find, and i'm just wondering if someone here can tell by the look of it and its specifics around what years it was manufactured. i can't seem to figure out how to upload a photo here but if you message me i can get the images to you. thanks! David |
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Hi I have three archtops - a Gibson L-4 ('34), and Harmoney Monterey ( '64) and a 2007 Eastman AR805.
The Harmony was my first, and I bought it in 2006 in , effectively, showroom condition. The neck is perfect, and it sounds great for what it was designed as - i.e. a dance band rhythm box. It is as sited for that job as the Gibson. # The Eastman , understandable has a far more open warmer tonality. Harmony as we all know made an enormous amount of instruments of every types and , like Martins and Gibsons - sometimes they scored a bulls eye, whilst many more were just somewhere on the butt. See :
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That Harmony has about the coolest burst (if you can call it that) I've ever seen.
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Old versus New
So, based on the experiences of those who know, what modern archtops such as Eastman and Loar would you compare to the Harmonys, Kays, Vegas, Silvertones, etc. of the past?
Specifically, what Loar and Eastman models would you compare to the older ones listed?
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Re: Eastmans and old Harmonys .. please look at the video I posted a few back on this thread.
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Seems to me the Godin 5th Avenue (acoustic) would be closest to the old cheap archtops. Plywood. The Godin is really well built though.
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My favorite electric is my 1964 Kay Speed Demon. It was a mess when I bought it a year ago (for $250), but I could tell immediately that it had potential. My local tech was able to get it playing great again.
I especially like the unique voice and attack that the all-wood floating bridge provides. The neck is very full, with a soft V profile.
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Nice - almost wound up with the 3-PU version when I was a kid (about $100 as I recall) but held out for the sunburst Gretsch Double Annie that I still own...
Nevertheless, what goes around comes around - located a '61 Kay Galaxie (the upscale version of your guitar - flame maple body/teaburst finish, single Kelvinator PU, slim neck) for $30 with period (but not original) chipboard case, at a church flea market where my wife and I were booked to play back in December. Sounds great - surprising amount of frequency/dynamic range in that cheapo pickup (I can see why Clapton gravitated toward them in his early days) but needs some work (as they all do): a good cleanup brought it back to good cosmetic shape (had to remove six decades of tobacco-smoke residue and general crud/tarnish), PU surround is crumbling (fortunately those may be available from the new Kay operation), bridge was hacked by some drunken would-be tech in an attempt to lower the action (might need to have one made), and it's missing the pickguard (probably leave that off - the top wood is that pretty) and trussrod cover (definitely want that replaced). Good investment regardless - seen them routinely selling on the 'net for $600-700 in the same condition I bought mine and $800+ restored, so I might bring it back and flip it on a future purchase...
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The date stamp is a real pain to see. You are usually looking for just one small, faded blue stamp, on the back, randomly placed. Often VERY faded (need maximum light, mirror, lucky viewing angle, glasses, and anything else you can add, to see it). It is a three-character stamp, about 3/8" tall, first character is either "F" or "S", second and third are numbers indicating the year. |
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hi
I have a Hofner President with an aftermarket pickup fitted to the neck, The jack is set in the pick guard!! I picked it up for peanuts many years ago at a bootsale and although it looks lovely (To me at least!), It doesn't sound very nice!! (To me at least- Probably my rubbish playing! ) It's mostly a wall hanger for me these days but I may get it down and try some different strings as I fitted lightweight Daddario's years ago, May try some heavier guage strings in it.. John |