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And now the usual suspects on the subject of bridge pins have aligned themselves!
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The only time I truly noticed a huge difference was on those metal pins on a friends modern deluxe. The wave and ring was just different. Wasn’t a huge fan but that’s the only time I’ve even noticed.
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Bridge pins do absolutely nothing to a guitar except bling up the bridge
I bought a set of brass ones a couple years ago and they did absolutely nothing to the tone of the guitar. didn't make it any better, didn't make it any worse, just did nothing whatsoever... |
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....apologies for misunderstanding your post boss...and the subsequent over reaction....I guess I was a little touchy yesterday...
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I swap out the bridge pins on all my guitars with either ebony, snakewood or Tusq pins. Normally I hear very little change and usually it's just the guitar becoming slightly more robust. When I got my Farida OT-22 I popped in a set of Tusq pins at the first string change and the guitar's tone noticeably changed for the worse. Just sounded dead and lifeless. So I pulled out the Tusq pins and put in a set of snakewood pins I had laying around and the guitar's tone returned in all it's glory and also seemed to have a little extra depth. I will always swap out the pins on my guitars because I just hate the flimsy plastic pins they come with.
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I always opt for the lightest weight pins. I've replaced bone several times with plastic ivoroid or ebony and I've always thought it improved slightly. Less mass = more movement of the top is my line of thinking.
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Personally, I don't replace the pins that the guitar came with unless a pin breaks or I don't care for the look. If there's something off with the sound, I might consider it, but I'll try plenty of other things first.
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The two main points of contact (three if you count the fretwire) for a string are the nut and the saddle. The bridge pin just keeps the string in place
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Nothing noticeable between bone and plastic. I started using titanium and noticed a wider range. More "ping." Old strings sounds newer.
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Being the OP of this opinion-fest...I must chime back in to report that I have indeed installed a set of bone Bob Colosi pins into the bridge of my Martin 000-18...and to my old ears, there may be the slightest increase in brightness of tone across the strings when strummed...maybe...
...or there might be no difference at all. They DO look very cool though. |
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I've put bone pins in both my 000-28 and my 000-42. I have 68 yr old ears so am not the proper judge of any difference in tone or response.
I installed them just for looks and so am happy with the change. |
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The way I think this works in *some* cases is the same way as color blindness, which has many variants and different levels of being able to discern colors. The same thing is with sound, particularly overtones. If you can stipulate that animals can hear tones that humans cannot, then could not different humans have different aural sensitivities? And then there are folks that just aren't aware of the nuances of sound. To argue my point, let's forget about bridge pins for a moment and talk about guitar sounds. Pick a string any string. Can you identify the fundamental? If you listen closely, do you hear any other tones or pitches, in any octave besides the fundamental? Sometimes its a matter of knowing what to listen for. Going on, can you identify if one or more strings in a set is louder than others, or seemingly brighter than others? Are some more pleasing to your ear than others. Perhaps all, under certain conditions are extremely pleasant and well balanced, or the opposite. Probably the mark of a well made guitar with appropriately selected strings with reasonable quality bridge pins will produce somewhere between acceptable and glorious sound. But maybe a trained ear, capable of hearing nuance, having an idea of what he wants to hear might want to make slight changes to the sound, either overall or changing the string to string balance. In these cases, the right application of changes in bridge pins can make enough of a change to bring that guitar's sound from acceptable to fully satisfying. But as I said, there are those who appreciate the nuances, and those who don't. But that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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