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I'll see if my girlfriend can snap a picture for me now. You sure 5x3230 is the chord? Bass to treble, right?
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OK, here it is:
Obviously, how much you need to "rotate" depends on your finger lengths. Mine are pretty short, hence the contorted position Someone with a longer pinky could probably achieve a more natural arc, hence less need for rotation to clear the treble strings.
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Yikes mmak! Dont hurt yourself!
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That ain't so bad, Brian. I find this one, while less of a stretch, much more taxing on the arm muscles:
ahhhh, the things we do to play a white man-scaled instrument
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The chord in question in Wu Wei is 074240 bass to treble and to let ring so stretch that pinky another fret. Ain't going to happen.
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This may or may not be of help. May just be discouraging.
Pierre playing "Wu Wei" at The Freight and Salvage in 1995. He is using a capo, so that shortens the stretches a bit. I don't know if the chord in question is at 1:14 or not, but that's a stretch. The man is not human. Who can play like that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p6WXav_ZII It's also in this wonderful version, at 1:14. He plants and then stretches for the bass note by rotating. Nicely played version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT5a...eature=related Last edited by David Hilyard; 06-24-2009 at 01:16 PM. |
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mak was showing a chord from L'Alchimiste, which is 5x3230 i just watched a few more youtube players doing the 074240 strech. those who are able to do it all have the unique ability to reach their pinky out REALLY far... i noticed that my left hand pinky is about 5mm longer than the right pinky... so maybe if i keep on playing guitar it'll grow another 5mm and i'll be able to do it then... Last edited by banpreso; 06-24-2009 at 03:53 PM. |
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I had a very interesting discussion with Muriel Anderson recently (I interviewed her for the August 2009 Acoustic Guitar, just hitting the streets). This part of the discussion didn't make the article, but I asked her about her ability to make long stretches, being a tiny lady as she is. We compared hand size, and the tips of her fingers only came to about my 1st knuckle joint! So I have at least 3/4 of an inch on her as far as finger length, yet she easily makes stretches that I would have trouble with. She showed me how simple changes in hand position, and relaxing make it possible.
The chord in question is a good reminder, I have never tried that tune, and on first try, there was no way I could see myself fingering that chord, and wasn't even sure how Pierre would do it. But after seeing the videos David posted, I just tried it again, and it's certainly possible. Probably won't be my favorite chord, but I can get it by shifting my hand the way the guy does on the 2nd video. Not very comfortable, but maybe with some practice...
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But I think there are different ways to approach fingering issues, and some things are more doable than they first appear. I wish I could demonstrate what Muriel showed me, it was very much "if you try it that way, it's impossible, if you do it this way, it's easy". In no way was she proposing anything that causes pain, she was showing the opposite, total relaxation and ease. My point was that it's not all about brute force (in fact, DON'T do that, you'll hurt yourself) or stretching, even tho Pierre emphasizes stretching exercises. Sometimes it's about a different motion or position, which I think the videos David posted demonstrate pretty well. Heck, I even ran into a player once who was able to get those impossible bass notes by using his nose :-)
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EDIT: OK, nevermind. I see he replied to you in his previous post already Quote:
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here's a little update. after working one some streching (not a whole lot to be honest), i can comfortably fret 024260. so 024270 seems to be doable, with a bit more practice...
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