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It strikes me as so odd that we've seen multiple updates to some computers in the Apple lineup but the Mac Pro is still sitting there with its Intel chip.
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https://talkingtechandaudio.com/blog...0David%20Lewis Excerpt The Mac Pro will be released in spring, and will be running macOS Ventura 13.3. Generally, version three of the macOS updates comes out around spring, so my guess is, the Mac Pro will be released with that update in mind. But, as already mentioned, with this year’s resources, and attention very much being on the AR/VR headset, the Mac Pro, after all this wait, could feasibly come out via a press release. On the face of it, it seems little more than a chip swap, and nothing radically new at all.
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Mac world has an interesting bullet point
comparing the new M2 Mini pricing with the old M1 Mini pricing WAS: M1 Chip with 8-Core CPU and 8-Core GPU, 256GB: $699/£699 NOW: M2 Chip with 8-Core CPU and 10-Core GPU, 256GB: $599/£649 WAS: M1 Chip with 8-Core CPU and 8-Core GPU, 512GB: $899/£899 NOW: M2 Chip with 8-Core CPU and 10-Core GPU, 512GB: $799/£849 WAS: 3.0GHz Intel Core i5 6-Core Processor with Intel UHD Graphics 630, 512GB: $1,099/£1,099 NOW: M2 Pro Chip with 10-Core CPU and 16-Core GPU, 512GB: $1,299/£1,399
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Yes - when I said base model, I meant the base M2, not M2 Pro. I should have been more clear. I expect to add a couple upgrades like 1TB SSD & 16GB RAM to the system. I try to give them a little extra lifespan, otherwise they stop being useful to me too quickly.
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Well, let's be realistic. The reason Windows apps are more portable to older versions is because Windows machines are always x86 based machines. There's really little reason software shouldn't run (or at least crawl) on systems several generations older. Apple has consistently chased better tech. They started with Motorola 68k, then when they saw those falling behind in power they made the move to PPC. Then they saw a brighter future with x86 & Intel, but Intel was unable to deliver on performance goals, so they moved it in house to their own SoC. All that said, several major studios are still running Pro Tool 12 on cheese grater MacPros that are over 10 years old. So, there is no rule that says you have to upgrade. So many creative pros simply get a system setup so it works & is stable & then freeze it right there & just get work done for a decade or so before buying a new system. That's pretty good ROI.
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As as you mention above I used my 2010 Mac Pro right up until I got the iMac in Dec 2020 that I use now,, and could in reality definitely still be running it on Catalina without issue if I chose .... Actually I use the PCIe SSD drive's out of it for backup,, and have also use the HDD's (a 1TB and a 2TB) out of it, as back up for my back up and I agree blaming Apple for progressing is a bit unrealistic As Stevie Guitar Miller said "time keeps on ticking into the future" ---tic tock
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Geekbench5 single core performance test: M1 Max - 1727 M2 Pro - 1952 CPU Clockspeed: M1 - 3.20 GHz M2 - 3.48 GHz |
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It's only an important difference if you're doing things that will push the limits on the Mini. Most people won't come anywhere near the limit on the Mini. But yes, any purchaser has to look at their short and long term aspirations and decide how powerful they need/want their computer to be.
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For the most part, it's either audio only or audio/video.
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My '17 iMac is more than enough for audio, heck the '12 Mini can do what I need in that realm. And the iMac works great for HD video, miles ahead of the (painfully slow) Mini in that area.
Given Apple's direction, I wouldn't buy Intel anything, great refurb price or not, now that their silicon is widely available and supported. It seems like almost any of the Mx chips are going to do audio well. Video is a whole 'nother ball of wax, though, and depending on your software and other resources, you can almost never have too many cores, and the faster the better. I'd be looking at the Studio Max for 4k and whatever is ahead, if that's important.
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That said I am guessing the the M2 Pro chip Mini would also be faster at 4k What is curious to me is why even the new M2 MB Pros still have only a 1080 web came and not 4K given my old iPhone 10 s can do 30 fps 4K
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