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Does This Appearance Matter
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Last edited by Kerbie; 07-15-2019 at 05:51 PM. Reason: Please refrain from profanity |
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I've played 2 pre war guitar company guitars now and neither of them sounded very good. Not terrible or anything but nothing special. They certainly didn't sound like the actual pre war instruments they are trying to emulate. The relic job on both looked pretty fake as well. Hard pass from me.
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People always refer to player grade guitars as having “honest wear” and it made me wonder what “dishonest wear” was. Now I know. |
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I can't help wondering how Pre*War Guitar Co. would have been perceived as a quality built instrument had they forgone the whole relicing aspect. I think it's important to get past the aesthetics and recognize the "beauty" below...how they're built and how they sound. Just my two cents...
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Are they made in China?
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I'm literally stunned at the responses in the hours since I last posted in this thread. Based on Pre*War's wildly successful debut and currently 1 year wait list, not to mention the few used guitars that sell at practically brand new pricing, I'd say they're doing a lot right. They are in high demand everywhere and are sold nearly as soon as they arrive at the few dealers that currently exist. I strongly advise those of you commenting negatively about the merits of artificial relic'ing to actually play one of these guitars if you get the chance. If you like the Martin tone, these guitars are INCREDIBLE.
Earlier this year, I was graciously invited to the home of forum member 'aintitthelife98' to play his Pre*War Adi/BRW OM and Adi/Hog Dread. Both guitars were awesome but the OM was in the top 2 best OMs I've ever touched (and for 8k new it had better be!). It was Level 1 relicing, so just had the finish crazing, but the volume, bass, superb playability, and incredible tone FLOORED me. Dry and vintage voiced like an old Martin. Play one and thank me later!
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Either that or he can’t read
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We continually see threads where we ponder whether we should return a guitar because it has a few scratches. I for one (and you too I believe) do not like guitars with runout. I don’t think many of us would accept a brand new guitar with a top full of finish checks — consider all the threads about waiting to open shipping boxes during winter months. How often do we hear — the only thing that matters is the tone, yet appearance of Pre War guitars is front and center as contrarian ...etc., etc., etc. So when I saw the Pre War guitar at TME today I thought: how is this different? There seems to be an inconsistency that I wanted to explore. That’s all there was to it. Is it different because the builder says they intended to design these same flaws into a new guitar? If I was interested in purchasing a $5k guitar from Pre War, I would expect the same high standards in play & appearance that I expect in any other guitar I bought. I don’t get it, but that’s ok. I was hoping to learn/understand that given any new $5K guitar should sound great — why do players choose to pay for (what I see as) pre-damaged appearance. |
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It’s also my personal opinion that Pre*War’s astounding success has contributed to the sudden surge of Martin Aged Authentic purchases we’re reading about here and on UMGF. Like PW, the only way you can get Martin’s ultra ultra thin finish is to by the Aged/Relic’ed version of the D-18A or D-28A.
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So relicing is a million hours of Tonerite? Sign me up. |
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I would never buy a guitar that is made to look like that, no matter the sound. I agree with the poser comment earlier. Besides, I take the best care I can of my guitar. (Comes from not having much as a kid, I suppose)
If anyone needs theirs relic'ed cheap, send it to me. I have an active German Shorthaired Pointer, and fully clawed cat, kids, and grandkids. I'll just leave it in the middle of the living room and check on it every couple of days until it's right. |
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This level of distress is not my cup of tea, but I could understand someone finding it cool or different enough to buy if their budget allowed AND the playability and tone is there*. Fender has been doing "relics" for a number of years. Not everyone would buy one, but I don't think anyone complains about them except when the aging doesn't look authentic, which I do think can be a fair point.
*I haven't had the chance to play a "Pre-War" but a friend said he was quite impressed with the tone.
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pager & ALBD
The China question was based on some misinformation. Sorry it touched some nerves. |
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I wouldn't pay 5 grand for something that beat up. Lots of very nice new guitars for that price.
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