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Most of those OD and distortion pedals are solid state too...
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Some time ago I was in a blues/rock band that most often only used the P.A. for vocals. So amps ran off the stage. To get the amp sound I liked I always had to run my amps to loud. So I got two 15 watt tube ampeg amps. My thinking was that if one amp wasn't loud enough for the room I'd Y cord them and run them both. I never did have to run them both.
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Speaking of fiddling with tubes, when you change out your tubes doesn't that void the warranty ?? I know on some mics it does. Because of bias issues, I don't change out tubes in amps, because it can cause damage to other parts of the circuit. Upgrading to a better brand of tube is one thing, but when you start changing for a hotter tube you may be asking for trouble.
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I have no expectations of sound... (also I personally do not really care for significant metal-ish type distortion) Which is why I suppose I really enjoy the sound of my Supro 50 watt tube amp. Even at the low volume levels I normally play it at, in the house. The clarity and "warmth" ( yes funky cliche') even at only a 1/4 volume or less is IMO, superb. I also have a 20 watt SS practice amp an, Orange Crush 20 RT (with the HP spk. cutout feature, for stealth practice ) that has as you describe a clean channel and a dirty channel with both volume and gain on the dirty channel , that can distort quite a bit a low volume , but I actually the play the clean channel almost all the time . But between the two amps at low volume I still much prefer the tube amp those two.
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Overdriving a solid-state amp circuit through too much volume (clipping) tends not to sound good, which is one reason audiophiles pay far higher prices for tube stereo amps. A distortion pedal doesn't work by overdriving and clipping (nor do distortion circuits built into some solid-state amps, like the Blues Cube, which by the way is 60W), and a good one can make your solid state amp sound very close to a tube amp that is played hard enough to distort. I used rigs like that for years. But that's still with plenty of headroom on the solid-state amp, so it never starts to clip.
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I still like the overdriven sound of my old SS Session, with master volume turned either up or down. The new generation is even better. I have tried SS amps that were absolutely horrible with any overdrive. I've heard some tube amp sounds that made me want to run away too. Cannot generalize.
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I play an 85 Watt Boogie Mk IV in my living room, and it sounds fantastic at any volume. It's also got 2 12" EVMs So, 'is 15w too much' has a couple of answers depending on a couple of important other points.
If you've got a master volume and a channel volume, you can use them to get the desired breakup you want at a volume you can stand. This is of course dependent on the quality of the amp If you are running your 15Watter into a 1x8 cabinet it will also obviously be lower in volume at the same settings than if you are running it into a rectifier 4x12. For the biogger cab, you may need to go a little louder because it simply may not respond on "1" if the amp is 100Watts, but if it's less than 20 it shouldn't be an issue. For whatever reason, tube watts always seem considerably louder than solid state watts. I don't actually care about the reason, just pointing that out. lol So, Yamaha makes the THR5, which is 5 watts and has some cool stuff built in. Almost all the big tube amp companies make low wattage amps now too, like Mesa (has a few, actually, like the AMAZING Mark V:25), Peavey, and Marshall (the Jubilee 20W is particularly nice). There is the Blackstar HT5, Bugera G5, Victory Kraken, and I have recently heard very good reviews of the 20w Friedman Runt. But seriously, unless you are looking at an old 60's or 70's era amp with only a channel volume, you should be able to make ****ed near anything sound good at bedroom levels without too much hassle. A decent OD pedal and a chorus (or a cheap multi effects) and you are good to go. Get the amp you like would be my suggestion, and make it work. It won't be difficult with a 1x12 or 2x12 setup.
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Carr Skylark has this perfectly wired, as well. |
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I have a Little Lanilei 3350. It's a boutique amp built by Tris Mahaffay at Mahaffay Amps. He also makes a model he calls the Hi-Low Plexi.
They have a pre-amp and two power stages, the first is a 1/4 watt tube. It feeds at line level into a 33 watt solid state power section. The amps allow you to get tube tone and distortion at volumes you can talk over, or you can drive a pair of 4X12 cabinets at stage volumes. They typically cost around $250 new. http://www.mahaffayamps.com/index.htm |
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I hear you on the supro. It's the same reason I like older fenders. They never sound "thin". Even crystal clear, they have gravitas, if I may borrow from the Romans.
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Here's a clip I like, despite pretty low-quality-everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myY95mnB2Zg
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