Taylor 512ce vs 322e 12-fret, V-class

ifret · #1 01-26-2020, 08:36 AM

I currently own a cedar/mahogany 512ce (14 fret). I'm hoping to try out a new 322e 12-fret, V-class (hog/blackwood).

I'm wondering what your thoughts are, and what the differences would be. I'm an exclusive fingerpicker (with fingerpicks). Do you think there'd be significant differences? If so, what would they be? I will have to try to get my hands on one to try for myself, but appreciate any feedback.

Athens · #2 01-26-2020, 09:55 AM

Aside from the differences attributable to the woods used, 12 frets have a different sound due to the placement of the bridge. It's normally closer to the center of the lower bout due to the shorter neck.

I also find that the shorter neck makes for better comfort when playing the guitar as I don't have to stretch quite as far with my left hand.

While 12 frets aren't exclusively for finger style, you'll find that 12 frets are more popular with folks who play fingerstyle.

As with any guitar, the best way to check it out is to find one and play it to see if you like the feel/sound.

Let us know your thoughts when you do.

mawmow · #3 01-26-2020, 12:59 PM

I did not try any V class.

I have a 322 (14 frets) and a 412ce
(as well as 510 Engelmann/mahogany and GS-5 cedar/mahogany)

The 322 mahogany/blackwood definitely sounds bassier (darker) than the 412
(the 510 in the middle I would say and the GS-5 the bassier of all).

rpatkin · #4 01-26-2020, 01:36 PM

I have a 712 12 fret V braced, and a 322 Blackwood 12 fret, non-V. I really love the 712, it's pretty new and the sound is still developing. The 322 is about 3 or so years old, and it sounds wonderful also, just a bit less "orchestral" than the 712. I, for one, don't think I'd buy a Taylor that isn't a 12 fret. Makes much more difference than the bracing pattern (though I agree with all the points Taylor makes about the V Class bracing, particularly playing up the neck)

ifret · #5 01-26-2020, 03:11 PM

Thanks to those who have replied so far. I'm kinda thinking a 12-fret would be excellent for my playing style, plus the hog/blackwood has gotten good reviews.

SpruceTop · #6 01-26-2020, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by frets4fun

Thanks to those who have replied so far. I'm kinda thinking a 12-fret would be excellent for my playing style, plus the hog/blackwood has gotten good reviews.

I had a 2014 Taylor 812ce that sounded great both acoustically and plugged-in. When it came time to move it along, I did so because the 12-fret design made the guitar kind of uncomfortable to play up the neck and especially when using a capo. When it came time to buy a 2016 Taylor 322ce, I opted for the 14-fret model and I'm not looking back on that decision. This wood combination, however, sounds rich and mellow, and I'm sure you'll like it. Please keep us up to date. Thanks!

ClamsB · #7 01-26-2020, 10:02 PM

I've got one. It's awesome. It is easy to play and as loud as my Grand Orchestra! I find I can reach the upper frets on the first 3 strings easily; I don't miss having a cutaway. If you use a capo way up high, you might consider a 14 fret model.

Clams