The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 12-05-2017, 10:48 PM
upsidedown upsidedown is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,816
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpd View Post
I remember your first Waterloo experience in New York. What swung you over to the ladder bracing? Oh....nice Waterloo
Honestly, a good price and a "why the L not?" attitude. A LOT of X-braced guitars have passed through my hands.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-05-2017, 10:49 PM
upsidedown upsidedown is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,816
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Owen View Post
Hi upside down,

Well, the ladder brace is true to the Kalamazoo KG 14, so you’re hearing the sound a lot of blues got played and recorded on. I had a KG 14 for quite a while, and it sounded less refined than its x braced kin, but it had a quite distinctive edge to its tone.

Happy NGD!
That's what they tell me.

Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-06-2017, 06:02 AM
CycleBob CycleBob is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 626
Default

I like that. Would love to play one. Congrats
__________________
Englemann/Hog OM (Carson Crickmore course custom build), Breedlove Premier Concert (R/W)
Fender Tele Standard, Furch Little Jane (Cedar), Baby Taylor BT1, Cort SFX, Fender DG1
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-06-2017, 06:03 AM
Toby Walker's Avatar
Toby Walker Toby Walker is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Stationary home in NJ. Mobile home on any given highway.
Posts: 8,561
Default

Congrats. I now have four Waterloos and they all sound remarkable.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-06-2017, 06:10 AM
boombox boombox is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 901
Default

Congrats on the Waterloo. I too thought I'd prefer the X bracing, but the ladder braced tbar I tried convinced me otherwise. Can't handle the big neck though, so am keeping my eyes out for a small neck or WL-12 at a good price.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 12-06-2017, 06:42 AM
devellis's Avatar
devellis devellis is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,290
Default

Yeah, Waterloos guitars are great. I have a WL-14L and a WL-S Deluxe. They're two of my favorites. Enjoy yours!
__________________
Bob DeVellis
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12-06-2017, 07:08 AM
AndrewG AndrewG is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, UK
Posts: 4,552
Default

I haven't played one of these, but nearly three grand for essentially a copy of a $12.75 (1933 prices), guitar, 'authentic' glue blobs and all, seems an awful lot of money.
__________________
Yamaha LL16 A.R.E.
Alvarez AP70
Harley Benton CF200WN
D'Angelico Excel DC, Fret King Super 60SP.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-06-2017, 08:56 AM
zmf zmf is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 4,564
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
I haven't played one of these, but nearly three grand for essentially a copy of a $12.75 (1933 prices), guitar, 'authentic' glue blobs and all, seems an awful lot of money.
Might seem expensive, but you can view the Waterloos as the Japanese Miata being the well-designed, reliable replacement for the cantankerous old British Lotus Elan. Finally a great roadster that's fun to drive and you don't have to worry about it breaking down on you.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-06-2017, 09:05 AM
Willie Voltaire Willie Voltaire is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 4,489
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
I haven't played one of these, but nearly three grand for essentially a copy of a $12.75 (1933 prices), guitar, 'authentic' glue blobs and all, seems an awful lot of money.
No, clearly you haven't played one of these.
__________________
Gibson LG2, Waterloo WL12, Guild D30, National M2, Gretsch Jim Dandy, Fouke Industrial Indy-8 lap steel
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 12-06-2017, 09:22 AM
zombywoof zombywoof is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,295
Default

Congrats!

I have compared a bunch of Waterloos and walked away preferring the ladder braced version. But that might be because I am used to them. But I am more and more seeing the wisdom of going for a Waterloo and giving the Schmidt Sovereign and Stellas a break.

But what is becoming increasingly clear is that coming up with a proper firestripe pickguard has seemingly become a lost art.
__________________
"I play so rough - I stomp 'em"
Bukka White on playing his National
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 12-06-2017, 09:33 AM
upsidedown upsidedown is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,816
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
I haven't played one of these, but nearly three grand for essentially a copy of a $12.75 (1933 prices), guitar, 'authentic' glue blobs and all, seems an awful lot of money.

Are the glue globs a little kitschy? Yes, I think so. But otherwise the build quality is outstanding. The nut is cut perfectly, its intonation is on the money and the overtones...am I supposed to be getting overtones from a ladder braced guitar?

Last edited by upsidedown; 12-06-2017 at 09:46 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 12-06-2017, 09:34 AM
AndrewG AndrewG is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, UK
Posts: 4,552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by upsidedown View Post
Said the man who puts his Yamahas in $600 cases.

Are the glue globs a little kitschy? Yes, I think so. But otherwise the build quality is outstanding. The nut is cut perfectly, its intonation is perfect and the overtones...am I supposed to be getting overtones from a ladder braced guitar?
Since when do Hiscox cases cost $600? I paid £75 for mine a few years ago. They retail at £105 now.
__________________
Yamaha LL16 A.R.E.
Alvarez AP70
Harley Benton CF200WN
D'Angelico Excel DC, Fret King Super 60SP.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 12-06-2017, 09:35 AM
upsidedown upsidedown is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,816
Default

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Last edited by upsidedown; 12-06-2017 at 09:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12-06-2017, 09:38 AM
AndrewG AndrewG is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, UK
Posts: 4,552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by upsidedown View Post
And I paid $1400 - not $3000 - for my Waterloo. So I guess neither of us know what we're talking about.
https://www.projectmusic.net/waterloo-wl-12-20352-p.asp
__________________
Yamaha LL16 A.R.E.
Alvarez AP70
Harley Benton CF200WN
D'Angelico Excel DC, Fret King Super 60SP.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 12-06-2017, 10:20 AM
Swamp Yankee Swamp Yankee is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: SE Connecticut
Posts: 1,200
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
I haven't played one of these, but nearly three grand for essentially a copy of a $12.75 (1933 prices), guitar, 'authentic' glue blobs and all, seems an awful lot of money.
At the same time there's a marked decrease in the value of sour grapes.
__________________
Martin 000-17SM
Supro 2030 Hampton
Taylor 562ce 12 X 12
Taylor GS Mini-e Spruce/Rosewood
Waterloo WL-S
Wechter TO-8418

Cordoba 24T tenor ukulele
Kanile'a Islander MST-4 tenor ukulele
Kiwaya KTC-1 concert ukulele
Kolohe concert ukulele
Mainland Mahogany soprano ukulele
Ohana SK-28 soprano ukulele
Pono Acacia Tenor Deluxe ukulele
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Thread Tools



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=