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Also... Is there any difference between setting -1 -3 or 0 db as the final "peak level" when using a limiter and maybe normalizing after? I think the artist intended to be this way. Looking at this live performance he hits the 4th string even harder than me (way harder): So far thx for all the info and help from everyone. I'll update the post when I decide to give another tune a try (experimenting with the placement and split mono to see if the stereo image stays the same) |
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The youtube is fine. He's hitting the thumb notes hard but also the hitting the melody notes hard so that you can hear them clearly. In your recording (for whatever the different reasons) they can barely be heard.
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I'll pay more attention to it the next time. I don't think I can go back to not using the thumbpick with all the joint problems. So I'll try either longer finger nails to catch more on the strings or going back to using fingerpicks. |
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Or maybe I misunderstood - you're suggesting doing both? Limiting to say -3 db then later raising it to -1 db? Whether that's different than setting the limiter to -1 would depend on your recording and whether it exceeds the threshold or not. If you have a limiter set to -3db and nothing in your recording exceeds -3 db, then the limiter would have no effect. If your material already hits 0db, then a -3db limiter setting would add 3db of compression, while a -1db setting would add 1db of compression.
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I took a quick swipe at it. Tried to help even out the thumb and fingers a bit, dialed in some delay and reverb. No noise treatment -- I don't have that. Left in a little more of the low mids than Doug did.
The file is downloadable. |
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Like setting the limiter to -3 and later normalizing to -1. Is there an ideal value for both? I remember reading somewhere that for different plataforms like cd vs streaming the ideal maximum peak/db and overall perceived volume are different. |
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Oh, I see, you just are wondering how loud your track should be. That's tricky, and I'm not an expert on this, Joe Hanna might give a better answer. But in general, other than not exceeding 0db (which is impossible, but you'd get clipping), the issue is more about perceived volume, not peak, which is what you are talking about with normalization. You could have a track that has a loud squeak, normalize that to 0db, and still have the rest of the track be very quiet.
Average levels, which is more like what we hear, as best I can tell, are more about trying to fit in to some convention. Like on TV, there are strict loudness rules these days, so that commercials don't end up being twice as loud as the program (or at least they shouldn't be). In music, it's a bit more varied, look up "loudness wars", to see a lot about the issue - everyone wants their record to be the loudest. In some ways, it's always a bit subjective, you wouldn't expect a Segovia CD to be the same volume as Metallica. On You Tube, it's going to be totally the wild west because so much of the content is amateur-created, so I don't think you can predict how you'll fit into other videos as far as level, unless You Tube does something to try to even videos out. For the mix I did on yours, I used the TC Electronic LM2n metering system, and targeted the CD master recommendation of -15 LUFS in that tool. RX says the result has a peak of. -.41db and total RMS value of -12db or -13 LUFS (Looks like I overshot my goal of -15 a bit). This is a complex subject that I don't claim to fully understand, and that involves a lot longer discussion. Look at: https://www.tcelectronic.com/brand/t...ness-explained you might also look up Bob Katz's K-System for some more background.
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