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Old 01-24-2023, 04:11 PM
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Default Newbie help with stringing vintage guitar that has 2 holes on tuner

It has been many years since I restrung a guitar. Recently got a vintage 60s folk/classical nylon string guitar. I got the strings tied on the bridge but just realized the tuning machines have two holes each. I can't find any tutorials or info anywhere explaining how to tie strings onto something like this.

Any help?

Again, I'm a newbie. Treat this question like I know nothing

Here is a previous thread I started about this particular guitar if it's helpful:
https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=655635


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Old 01-24-2023, 05:39 PM
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From the picture, I’d say use the outer hole of the pair, and wind toward the centre. No need to tie anything at this end.

Those tuners look as if they were designed for steel strings, not nylon, though. You may want to put a little tension on the string before you start winding, otherwise you’re going to fill up that gap pretty quickly, and perhaps even end up with more than one layer.
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Old 01-24-2023, 05:59 PM
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From the picture, I’d say use the outer hole of the pair, and wind toward the centre. No need to tie anything at this end.

Those tuners look as if they were designed for steel strings, not nylon, though. You may want to put a little tension on the string before you start winding, otherwise you’re going to fill up that gap pretty quickly, and perhaps even end up with more than one layer.
Interesting. Inside the sound hole it says "use nylon strings only" and it definitely seems like the original tuners.

So should I just string this "normally"? Just really trying to find a YouTube video that gives me a step by step!

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Interesting. Inside the sound hole it says "use nylon strings only" and it definitely seems like the original tuners.

So should I just string this "normally"? Just really trying to find a YouTube video I can find
I’d only use nylon strings based on that. Nylon-strung guitars typically have tuners with much fatter barrels than yours, as the strings stretch way more than steel strings as you tune up, and thus need more space to absorb the length as you bring them up to tension.

Perhaps providing some more detail about the actual guitar in question would be helpful.

I should bow out of the discussion at this point, as I don’t even own a nylon-strung guitar. Maybe someone with actual experience can help out
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I’d only use nylon strings based on that. Nylon-strung guitars typically have tuners with much fatter barrels than yours, as the strings stretch way more than steel strings as you tune up, and thus need more space to absorb the length as you bring them up to tension.

Perhaps providing some more detail about the actual guitar in question would be helpful.

I should bow out of the discussion at this point, as I don’t even own a nylon-strung guitar. Maybe someone with actual experience can help out
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Old 01-24-2023, 09:05 PM
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Anybody have any other pointers? Really confused and have been dying to get this thing strung so I can play it haha
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Old 01-24-2023, 09:06 PM
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From the picture, I’d say use the outer hole of the pair, and wind toward the centre. No need to tie anything at this end.

Those tuners look as if they were designed for steel strings, not nylon, though. You may want to put a little tension on the string before you start winding, otherwise you’re going to fill up that gap pretty quickly, and perhaps even end up with more than one layer.
When you say no need to tie anything at this end, do you mean I would just stick the string through the outer hole (without tying it or anything) and wind towards the center?
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Hi,
I've never seen that either on a tuner, but if it were me, I would just use one of those holes to secure the string. Then you'll be like everyone else.
And pick the hole that allows you to align the strings in as straight a fashion as you can. i.e. you want to avoid sharp angles from the nut to the tuners.
Here is a pic of my classical to show you. You can use it as a guide. As you can see, on the high and low E strings, 6 and 1, I tend to wind towards the outside, and on strings 5, 4, 3 and 2, the windings go more towards the inside.
That way, I can provide each string a pretty straight shot from the nut to the tuner.
Good luck, but I think you'll get the idea. It's really not hard.
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some old machine heads/tuning pegs( that ive seen) were designed to be used in multiple styles of guitars with 2 sets of holes on each peg to facilitate using on a slot head guitar (like yours) where the set of holes closer to the gears would be used to tie onto, where as if they were installed on a standard non slot headstock they would tie on to the holes further from the gear end (as that depth is thicker for the barrels to go through) imo and experience anyway. vintage suppliers still sell them today. i have also seen ppl use the two sets of holes to facilitate tying the strings in the traditional way ( like previous poster stated) with the 2 E strings being tied differently (string angle/stress etc)
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