#16
|
|||
|
|||
Redoing the math per the Original Post:
$350 to cover 26 weeks of the open mike - $13.46 per week Weekly attendance "around a dozen" - around $1.12 per attendee. Pay up.
__________________
stai scherzando? |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
Self insurance available?
Maybe this is off topic, but can a gigging solo musician purchase a convenient annual blanket license from ASCAP and BMI to perform any covers, anywhere? If so, whats that cost?
|
#18
|
|||
|
|||
No. There's no such thing.
__________________
stai scherzando? |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
Phew - I was worried. I really did check my math before posting.
|
#20
|
|||
|
|||
This is one of the reasons venues throw up their hands and just provide background recorded music. If a bunch of players want to gather every couple of weeks to entertain each other.....rent a studio.
__________________
Happy Sunsets Taylor 514ce (1999) Taylor K22ce - all Koa (2001) Taylor 612ce (2001) Taylor T5-C2 Koa (2007) Ovation CS28P KOAB - Koa Burst (2017) Paul Reed Smith 305 - Sunburst (2012) Paul Reed Smith Custom 22 - Autumn Sky (2013) Fender Classic Player 60s Strat - Sonic Blue (2012) Roland Juno DS76 (2020) |
#21
|
||||
|
||||
Or another way to look at it: If the coffee shop sells 10 cups of coffee during your time there, they have made enough to pay the $1 per day to have live music. If live music isn't worth $1 to the shop, they should just end it. If the 12, or so, of you aren't buying at least one drink while you're there, they should put you out anyway. If you are, they're making the money to pay the fee. It is their responsibility to pay the fee.
|
#22
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
Under construction |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
Performers shouldn't expect to be paid at an open mic, but they should at least get in free. They "payment" is having to play. Non-musicians, punters, should perhaps pay entry, at least if the music is a big feature of the place. Of course one wouldn't expect a coffee shop to charge admission, but they should at least pay for the music licence. And (IMO) pay something to whoever organises the open mic. I.e., is there a PA there? Who owns and operates that? They deserve something. If the PA belongs to the shop, then it seems reasonable for them to hire it to the musicians for a small fee. If one of the musicians is bringing along their own PA, especially if they are also acting as organiser and MC, the shop should pay them. This is how it works at an open mic I help run. My partner brings his PA, we play a short opening and closing set, MC the evening, and the pub pays us a small fee. The other musicians and the clientele pay nothing. They just buy the beer. (We get one free pint each.) The pub pays a music licence. The audience is never big, the pub is small, but obviously finds it worthwhile. (AFAIK the size of licence fee depends on the capacity of the venue, and this one is tiny.)
__________________
"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in." - Leonard Cohen. Last edited by JonPR; 09-10-2019 at 05:13 AM. |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
No covers, no fees.
__________________
Sobell Model 1 Sobell six string archtop Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis Eastman John Pisano Gibson Johnny A Franklin Prairie State Collings D1A |
#25
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
The old 'no covers, originals only' only works if the performers are not BMI/ASCAP members with registered songs that they report to the PRO (like I do).
__________________
Mike My music: https://mikebirchmusic.bandcamp.com 2020 Taylor 324ceBE 2017 Taylor 114ce-N 2012 Taylor 310ce 2011 Fender CD140SCE Ibanez 12 string a/e 73(?) Epiphone 6830E 6 string 72 Fender Telecaster Epiphone Dot Studio Epiphone LP Jr Chinese Strat clone Kala baritone ukulele Seagull 'Merlin' Washburn Mandolin Luna 'tatoo' a/e ukulele antique banjolin Squire J bass |
#26
|
|||
|
|||
Correct me if I'm wrong, but... I thought you needed licensing to play pre-recorded songs (or even the radio) too. To the PRO, whether it comes off a CD/mp3 player or from a guitarist's hands and voice makes no difference.
|
#27
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
opps just saw Chipotle beat me to it
__________________
Enjoy the Journey.... Kev... KevWind at Soundcloud KevWind at YouYube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...EZxkPKyieOTgRD System : Studio system Avid Carbon interface , PT Ultimate 2023.12 -Mid 2020 iMac 27" 3.8GHz 8-core i7 10th Gen ,, Ventura 13.2.1 Mobile MBP M1 Pro , PT Ultimate 2023.12 Sonoma 14.4 |
#28
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
This is why it makes zero sense to charge the players for it.
__________________
Under construction |
#29
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
It sounds like they are just doing this to support the music community. They surely wouldn't sell enough coffee to cover their additional expenses of staying open just for this event. I wouldn't mind chipping in to pay fee in this case. If I were them, however, I would simply close down the open mic. It seems like too much hassle, not enough benefit to me.
__________________
Original music here: Spotify Artist Page |
#30
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
If the learning songwriters are skint or just hesitant to part with their cash, the room doesn't even have to have a cost. Does someone have a larger rec-room, basement, living room (or a friend who does?). Someplace that a favor could be exchanged for to use during off-hours with a large enough floor-plan?
__________________
----------------------------------- Creator of The Parlando Project Guitars: 20th Century Seagull S6-12, S6 Folk, Seagull M6; '00 Guild JF30-12, '01 Martin 00-15, '16 Martin 000-17, '07 Parkwood PW510, Epiphone Biscuit resonator, Merlin Dulcimer, and various electric guitars, basses.... |