Going to the Dark Side: I Now Love Round-Shouldered Dreads Best!

[Harmonics102]

I'm sure the mention of ' going to the dark side ' was strictly a figure of speech, not really understanding what that saying means.

I guess, ' Going to the Dark Side ' sounds much better than ' I was wrong '

H102

[lowrider]

No, it’s not a J45 at all. It’s much too nasty.

I’ve called the DSS-17 a lot of things, this morning I finally found the perfect name;

It’s the Telecaster of acoustic guitars!!!!!

[Charmed Life Picks]

Originally Posted by rokdog49

May be... then again,you haven't played my 'gator killer J45 either.
I'll still take it over that Martin.
I'm sure the Martin is superb, it's just not a J45.

Rok, my Eastman E-10SS (J-45 clone) is a monster. It is much more versatile than my HD-28, which I also love, particularly when it comes to fingerstyle. For straight strumming and rhythm, a Martin dread is pretty hard to top, but I do so much of both that the Eastman tends to get called to duty more often.

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[BoneDigger]

Although I presently don't own a slope shoulder guitar, I have in the past and they can be quite good! I think that, like any type or model, there are good and bad of any type, but I would not hesitate to own a sloped guitar and I may again in the future.

I guess I feel about SS guitars the same as any other, if I find one I really like and I can afford it, I'll buy it. That DSS17 looks quite nice! Not sure how it would fit between my D15 and D18 though. Geesh, I don't know if I even want to try one. I don't need another guitar!!!

[llew]

Originally Posted by BoneDigger

I guess I feel about SS guitars the same as any other, if I find one I really like and I can afford it, I'll buy it. That DSS17 looks quite nice! Not sure how it would fit between my D15 and D18 though. Geesh, I don't know if I even want to try one. I don't need another guitar!!!

Try it...you'll like it! The DSS-17 that is!

[Tnfiddler]

Originally Posted by llew

Try it...you'll like it! The DSS-17 that is!

Try a Bourgeois Banjo Killer and you’d ask, “What’s a Martin?”!!

[J Patrick]

.....as one who grew up and joined the Martin ranks in the early seventies I think that some historic perspective is in order...the seventies were not banner years for Gibson acoustic guitars....it’s true Martin wasn’t at the top of their game either but Gibson basically abandoned their flagship design and adopted a poor square shouldered imitation of Martin guitars...sure there are probably some good examples out there but I never played one...Gibson acoustics from the 70’s are routinely overbuilt and unimpressive...

.....so no wonder they fell out of fashion...appreciation for vintage instruments was yet to come for the masses and if you walked into a store to buy a new acoustic there was no comparison between a Gibson and a Martin....

...I’m not sure when but some time after that...maybe late 80’s or early 90’s Gibson woke up and started making the original design again and slowly worked their way back into the market...(feel free to correct me if my recollection is suspect)...by Y2K they were back and this time folks were interested in the vintage examples as well as the new guitars....that combined with a folk renaissance and the development of the Americana genre has put them up high on the list of popular instruments with a lot of players...no need to extol their virtues...accolades abound...

...and for now the legend and history lives on...

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by J Patrick

.....as one who grew up and joined the Martin ranks in the early seventies I think that some historic perspective is in order...the seventies were not banner years for Gibson acoustic guitars....it’s true Martin wasn’t at the top of their game either but Gibson basically abandoned their flagship design and adopted a poor square shouldered imitation of Martin guitars...sure there are probably some good examples out there but I never played one...Gibson acoustics from the 70’s are routinely overbuilt and unimpressive...

.....so no wonder they fell out of fashion...appreciation for vintage instruments was yet to come for the masses and if you walked into a store to buy a new acoustic there was no comparison between a Gibson and a Martin....

...I’m not sure when but some time after that...maybe late 80’s or early 90’s Gibson woke up and started making the original design again and slowly worked their way back into the market...(feel free to correct me if my recollection is suspect)...by Y2K they were back and this time folks were interested in the vintage examples as well as the new guitars....that combined with a folk renaissance and the development of the Americana genre has put them up high on the list of popular instruments with a lot of players...no need to extol their virtues...accolades abound...

...and for now the legend and history lives on...

I totally agree

Here is a testimony of the birth of Bozeman Gibson factory in the 80-90s


Don’t want to hack the thread but I can’t resist...

[SpruceTop]

Originally Posted by Charmed Life Picks

I know, I know, it's sacrilege -- especially where I live, here in SoCal.

I was raised by Martin Nazis, in the backyard of CSNY and Joni Mitchell. Dude, I didn't even KNOW Gibson made flattops till about 15 years; that's how stupid I am. And here I am, all these years later, having forsaken and renounced the square-shoulder propagandists all around me. Having seen -- finally and forever -- the light (er, dark).

Dare I share my secret? Dare you share yours?

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Scott, You were also raised on early Bob Dylan Gibson J-50, and as they say in rural Western New York, "Ain't nothin' better than them Gibson J Slopes."

[llew]

Originally Posted by Larry Mal

I mean, he's got a point. If we can just agree to call the square shoulder guitars dreadnaughts and the slope shouldered ones jumbos, then we don't have to type "slope shouldered dreadnaughts" all the time.

Yeah but then what would we call the real Jumbo's? You know...the J-200 style guitars?

[llew]

Originally Posted by Tnfiddler

Try a Bourgeois Banjo Killer and you’d ask, “What’s a Martin?”!!

I did...sold it. (Adi/Mahogany) But we're all different?

[Tnfiddler]

Originally Posted by llew

I did...sold it. (Adi/Mahogany) But we're all different?

I have to ask what you didn’t like about it? I’m still blown away by mine every time I play it.

[Larry Mal]

Originally Posted by llew

Yeah but then what would we call the real Jumbo's? You know...the J-200 style guitars?

Super Jumbos!

[Charmed Life Picks]

Originally Posted by SpruceTop

Scott, You were also raised on early Bob Dylan Gibson J-50, and as they say in rural Western New York, "Ain't nothin' better than them Gibson J Slopes."

Kenny, where ya been hiding? (I know, I know. In the amplification section.)

In my case, no. I was surrounded in L.A. for decades by square-shouldered players. I literally did not know Gibson even had a flat top division till about 15 years ago.

I don't own, and have never owned, an electric, so I was only vaguely familiar with Strats and Teles and Les Pauls, so knew very little about those companies.

Truth. I'm embarrassed.

Scott

[offeringplate]

Originally Posted by Tnfiddler

Try a Bourgeois Banjo Killer and you’d ask, “What’s a Martin?”!!

I was just thinking the same thing, I remember one of those or a similar Bourgeois I had seen on NAG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I45DEisrg14

I sometimes will watch this video and say to myself that is the best sounding E chord I have ever heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I45DEisrg14


-OP