The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Custom Shop

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #31  
Old 02-01-2021, 11:38 AM
jjhturbo jjhturbo is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 237
Default

Thanks everyone for the kind words and thanks Eire, for the input regarding the sound port. I just took a look at your beauty -- the Black Limba with the dual ports. Very nice. Never really thought about multiple sound ports as I was mainly trying to decide what "kind" to get.

Will think about this. In your opinion, what is the change in overall volume from the front? (when having single versus dual sound ports)

Thanks again everyone for the well wishes. And just to agree with what's been stated a few times already, but warrants it again -- I couldn't pick better people than Tim & Mary to handle my first commission. They are gems, both professionally and more importantly, as human beings.
__________________
Acoustics:
Froggy Bottom, Emerald, McKnight (incoming)
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 02-04-2021, 03:23 PM
Eire Eire is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: two doors down from nowhere
Posts: 175
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhturbo View Post
In your opinion, what is the change in overall volume from the front? (when having single versus dual sound ports)
You'll find plenty of opinions about sound ports on AGF, if you conduct a search. Some folks are believers; others aren't. Tim has the science (imagine that!) behind it, and while I know psychoacoustics is involved, I tend to believe that the sound port, as well as its position, makes a difference in what you hear, particularly when playing softly.

While there is a bit of increase in volume, the various ports are more about effect. For lack of a better description, no port makes me feel as though the sound is out in front of me and a bit to my right; a 'Todd' port or Luckenbooth makes me feel as though there is sound coming from between my jaw and left shoulder; and the dual port makes me feel as though sound is coming up from either side of my jaw. Again: I find this especially true when playing softly.

You'll find my other McKnight with dual ports as the model for dual ports under the 'options' page on the McKnight site; it was my first build with Tim, and I'm not sure how many others have had dual ports cut into their guitars (if any). I simply find that I prefer the dual port over a single port, regardless of the design (and those designs can be quite aesthetically pleasing).

Once more: You'll hear all sorts of ideas, if you search the site for threads about sound ports. My perspective is just one of many and should be weighed accordingly.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 02-05-2021, 11:35 AM
jjhturbo jjhturbo is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eire View Post
You'll find plenty of opinions about sound ports on AGF, if you conduct a search. Some folks are believers; others aren't. Tim has the science (imagine that!) behind it, and while I know psychoacoustics is involved, I tend to believe that the sound port, as well as its position, makes a difference in what you hear, particularly when playing softly.

While there is a bit of increase in volume, the various ports are more about effect. For lack of a better description, no port makes me feel as though the sound is out in front of me and a bit to my right; a 'Todd' port or Luckenbooth makes me feel as though there is sound coming from between my jaw and left shoulder; and the dual port makes me feel as though sound is coming up from either side of my jaw. Again: I find this especially true when playing softly.

You'll find my other McKnight with dual ports as the model for dual ports under the 'options' page on the McKnight site; it was my first build with Tim, and I'm not sure how many others have had dual ports cut into their guitars (if any). I simply find that I prefer the dual port over a single port, regardless of the design (and those designs can be quite aesthetically pleasing).

Once more: You'll hear all sorts of ideas, if you search the site for threads about sound ports. My perspective is just one of many and should be weighed accordingly.
Thanks, Eire. Appreciate your opinion/perspective, and I understand the subjectivity component too.
__________________
Acoustics:
Froggy Bottom, Emerald, McKnight (incoming)
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 02-05-2021, 11:40 AM
jjhturbo jjhturbo is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 237
Default

New updates!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4500.jpg (67.0 KB, 210 views)
File Type: jpg 4501.jpg (66.9 KB, 210 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4505.jpg (47.9 KB, 208 views)
File Type: jpg 4511.jpg (33.7 KB, 207 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4513.jpg (30.4 KB, 213 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4515.jpg (37.4 KB, 213 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4517.jpg (47.5 KB, 211 views)
File Type: jpg 4522.jpg (42.4 KB, 210 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4524.jpg (36.8 KB, 213 views)
File Type: jpg 4530.jpg (31.9 KB, 210 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4532.jpg (43.6 KB, 213 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4535.jpg (49.4 KB, 211 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4537.jpg (34.7 KB, 214 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4539.jpg (43.2 KB, 210 views)
File Type: jpg 4541.jpg (38.5 KB, 207 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4544.jpg (25.1 KB, 212 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4552.jpg (41.8 KB, 208 views)
__________________
Acoustics:
Froggy Bottom, Emerald, McKnight (incoming)
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 02-05-2021, 11:42 AM
jjhturbo jjhturbo is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 237
Default

And more...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4559.jpg (29.6 KB, 212 views)
File Type: jpg 4560.jpg (53.7 KB, 212 views)
File Type: jpg 4563.jpg (33.3 KB, 209 views)
File Type: jpg 4564.jpg (53.4 KB, 213 views)
File Type: jpg 4565.jpg (31.7 KB, 212 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4567.jpg (48.9 KB, 214 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4570.jpg (37.2 KB, 209 views)
File Type: jpg 4572.jpg (44.2 KB, 211 views)
__________________
Acoustics:
Froggy Bottom, Emerald, McKnight (incoming)
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 02-05-2021, 01:12 PM
Nemoman Nemoman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: N. California
Posts: 2,496
Default

This Lowlander is really moving right along--looks wonderful so far!
__________________
Brazzie (Rio Lava)--2015 Stehr Auditorium (Adirondack/BRW)
Tigger--2013 Stehr Auditorium (Carpathian/Myrtlewood)
Melee--Razo 19 OM (German/Malaysian)
BevelBelle--Wilborn Ellie Belle (Old Stika/EIR)
Dana--1999 Bourgeois OM (Sitka/EIR)
Tres M--Malachite Machinga Meridian--2020 Baranik Meridian (Machinga/ Colorado Blue Spruce)
Ariel--2020 Wilborn Arum (Cocobolo/Tunnel 14)
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 02-06-2021, 06:20 AM
cigarfan's Avatar
cigarfan cigarfan is offline
Music soothes the soul!
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Within the blast radius of Washington D.C.
Posts: 4,664
Default

Looking Schweeet!
__________________
Life is like a box of chocolates ....
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 02-08-2021, 05:22 PM
jjhturbo jjhturbo is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 237
Default

This is really moving along! Got updates today on the neck and fretboard! I must say I continue to be so pleased with the blue trim/accent!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4579.jpg (34.7 KB, 180 views)
File Type: jpg 4580.jpg (56.8 KB, 180 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4582.jpg (42.6 KB, 180 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4583.jpg (40.3 KB, 179 views)
File Type: jpg 4585.jpg (35.0 KB, 182 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4586.jpg (36.9 KB, 180 views)
File Type: jpg 4587.jpg (60.7 KB, 180 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4588.jpg (62.4 KB, 181 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4591.jpg (41.4 KB, 178 views)
File Type: jpg 4593.jpg (30.8 KB, 181 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4594.jpg (28.7 KB, 181 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4595.jpg (35.5 KB, 180 views)
File Type: jpg 4607.jpg (64.0 KB, 179 views)
File Type: jpg 45609.jpg (57.0 KB, 184 views)
File Type: jpg 4612.jpg (43.8 KB, 181 views)
__________________
Acoustics:
Froggy Bottom, Emerald, McKnight (incoming)
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 02-09-2021, 03:58 PM
cigarfan's Avatar
cigarfan cigarfan is offline
Music soothes the soul!
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Within the blast radius of Washington D.C.
Posts: 4,664
Default

Tim you are soooo much fun to watch!
__________________
Life is like a box of chocolates ....
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 02-09-2021, 05:42 PM
Guitars44me's Avatar
Guitars44me Guitars44me is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Mountains east of San Diego
Posts: 4,628
Smile Yes indeed!

Quote:
Originally Posted by cigarfan View Post
Tim you are soooo much fun to watch!
I am enjoying this too!

As for soundports, I prefer one in the middle of the upper Bout bend. ( I tend to hold the Guitar in a semi classical position with the butt between my legs, when playing seated.)

This delivers a nice stereo balance. Lots of tone from the top in my right ear, and the port works for my left.

YMMV. Hahaha

Looking good!

You will be thrilled, I am sure!!!

Salud

Paul
__________________
3 beloved John Kinnaird Customs. (I owned 6)
R.T 2c 12 fret Custom
2016 552ce 12X12
R.Wilson Weissy
A few choice 90s Taylors
budget electrics, and reso
Still Too many, but
"OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER, TOO YOUNG TO CARE!"
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 02-10-2021, 01:24 PM
Mary's Avatar
Mary Mary is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Central Ohio
Posts: 9,056
Default

It's nice that those of you who are sound port experienced are sharing your thoughts here so jjTurbo can make a more educated decision of the sound his own ear will better appreciate. Thank you. It's not something my phone through a facetime chat can make clear since we really aren't equipped for quality sound.

John as with many of our customers, Eire, has an educated ear and a talent to play. He has a collection of McKnight guitars with different sound holes. As also with several others (Cigarfan) he has been in our wood room/shop/home/loft recent enough that they can tell what they heard that won them over to pick their guitars and sound holes. They are able to explain why one guitar over another still keeps their interest.

You can talk to those who have responded on this thread and trust their guidance. There is still time to think of the side sound port but when that time comes ... and that first spin of the drill has entered the guitar ---- there is probably no chance for changing your mind. I am pretty sure it's ok to PM the guys if you have any doubt and you might not want to talk publicly about it. They may have had that same doubt at one time. They will have your back.
__________________
********************

🐟 ... make a joyful noise ...

http://www.mcknightguitars.com
http://myspace.com/mcknightguitars
http://www.youtube.com/McKnightGuitars
http://facebook.com/mcknightguitars



McJam Annual event - contact me in PM
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 02-10-2021, 05:29 PM
jjhturbo jjhturbo is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mary View Post
It's nice that those of you who are sound port experienced are sharing your thoughts here so jjTurbo can make a more educated decision of the sound his own ear will better appreciate. Thank you. It's not something my phone through a facetime chat can make clear since we really aren't equipped for quality sound.

John as with many of our customers, Eire, has an educated ear and a talent to play. He has a collection of McKnight guitars with different sound holes. As also with several others (Cigarfan) he has been in our wood room/shop/home/loft recent enough that they can tell what they heard that won them over to pick their guitars and sound holes. They are able to explain why one guitar over another still keeps their interest.

You can talk to those who have responded on this thread and trust their guidance. There is still time to think of the side sound port but when that time comes ... and that first spin of the drill has entered the guitar ---- there is probably no chance for changing your mind. I am pretty sure it's ok to PM the guys if you have any doubt and you might not want to talk publicly about it. They may have had that same doubt at one time. They will have your back.
Yes, indeed, Mary! This forum and the input received here have proven to always be very useful. A lot of food for thought regarding the sound hole options. Really appreciate everyone's point of view and experiences. Mulling over still in the meantime. Btw, tell Tim to make sure to take a break now and then. The progress he has been making has just been amazing!
__________________
Acoustics:
Froggy Bottom, Emerald, McKnight (incoming)
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 02-10-2021, 05:32 PM
jjhturbo jjhturbo is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 237
Default

Headstock binding/purfling!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4614.jpg (34.5 KB, 144 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4616.jpg (38.9 KB, 143 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4617.jpg (40.2 KB, 141 views)
File Type: jpg 4619.jpg (49.2 KB, 144 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4620.jpg (36.1 KB, 143 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4623.jpg (35.8 KB, 140 views)
File Type: jpg 4624.jpg (61.0 KB, 142 views)
File Type: jpg 4626.jpg (39.1 KB, 141 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4627.jpg (33.2 KB, 141 views)
__________________
Acoustics:
Froggy Bottom, Emerald, McKnight (incoming)
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 02-12-2021, 05:45 PM
D. Churchland's Avatar
D. Churchland D. Churchland is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,429
Default

Love the blue. That's a classy touch
__________________
churchlandguitars on Instagram

Formerly known as, "Will Kirk"
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 02-13-2021, 09:53 AM
Mary's Avatar
Mary Mary is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Central Ohio
Posts: 9,056
Default

We have built spec guitars with the red trim and I remember doing one with green trim but this is the first time anyone has asked for the blue. It IS very eye appealing when combined with the raw woods. I, too, am looking forward to seeing this guitar completely dressed.
__________________
********************

🐟 ... make a joyful noise ...

http://www.mcknightguitars.com
http://myspace.com/mcknightguitars
http://www.youtube.com/McKnightGuitars
http://facebook.com/mcknightguitars



McJam Annual event - contact me in PM
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Custom Shop

Thread Tools





All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=