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I have discovered that having a little power bank handy is always a good idea!
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I use mine for shows, but it really earns its keep by being a great way to learn new songs. I have numerous set lists of about 30 songs, but then I have one called "new songs". Here is where I upload songs I want to perfect. It has about 60 songs in it. Eventually they get dropped from this as I can do them perfectly without looking at it. I use unrealBook app. Free, but works great. Easy to upload songs from Google Drive or from DropBox. Easy to share set lists with bandmates. A page flip pedal is great.
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I use the same one also. It fits my 12.9 inch iPad Pro in a UAG case and also works for my Microsoft Surface Pro. The screw clamp is a marvel of German engineering.
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I've owned 5 iPads and all have served to hold music charts. My current is an iPad Pro 12.9" (I'm 72 yrs old and my eyes verify it). I'm currently using the holder below (and have for 2½ yrs without issue). iPad/Tablet holder for music stands…CliCk Very secure. It rotates by friction but is still holding solid at any position I set it after 2½ yrs of use. It clamps to my mic stand. It is plastic, but very rugged plastic. It's not at all fragile. I don't care if people here cannot visualize Springsteen using an iPad, it works great for those of us who are either in what I call a disposable music environment where we burn through dozens of songs a year (like a Worship Team at a church), or are players who have collected hundreds of songs for decades and it's a challenge to remember all the lyrics. With the current quick turnover environment of apps, the app OnSong is probably the most supported display app available. Far beyond the needs of the average player, but even if you drop the fee to get into it, it's likely to be supported 10 years from now. It's like PhotoShop for songs. A lighter version of a song reader is unrealBook. Both have been around since at least 2010 (the year iPads were introduced). Both of these apps (as well as ForScore mentioned below) are paid apps, which is WHY THEY ARE STILL BEING SUPPORTED AND STILL WORK WELL. If you are not reading musical scores and merely need an app to display charts OnSong or unrealBook are both actively supported and kept current with iOS updates. And both their support departments respond readily to inquiries. If you are reading formal scored music, then ForScore is the app you'd want, as you can set up scores and as you advance through the song, it can do repeats, D.C. al coda, endings etc. But it is for classical players. The biggest challenge is where to store the songs, and how easy is it to load and setup lists of songs for playing live. OnSong and unrealBook both can access files from the cloud and/or GoogleDrive, or DropBox. All of them have a learning curve, and you do need to get your song sheets or files into the right format to work in the apps. Hope this adds to the discussion
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Thank you guys so much! This is exactly the discussion I am looking for! I use my iPad weekly for charts and music when playing at church but never use it if I am doing something solo live. I want to change that because like was said, I have a TON of songs rattling around in my brain from years of playing but the lyrics and that random chord are not always saved there with them! Hahaha!
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Stagg MUS-ARM 2 Large Music Stand with Attachable Holder Arm,Black The reason I like these style holders is that my ipad is in a heavy duty otterbox, and this style is more like a shelf that is not unit specific, so you can use it for a small tablet, a 12” iPad, or anything you care to put on it. I prefer this versatility, personally. And yes, I totally get the bunch of songs rattling around in my head thing ...sometimes all I need is that first word to remind me of that 4th verse...you’re not alone, lol!!! Edward Last edited by edward993; 11-23-2020 at 04:36 PM. |
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When I got thrown into gigging with a new band and didn't have all the lyrics and changes down yet, I mounted my iPad about a foot off the ground in front of my vocal mic stand using a low mic stand (like for miking drums). I would make a slide deck with a few reminders for myself for each song (e.g., first word of a line to cue me, chord changes I would forget etc); just enough to get me through any rough patches. This also served as my setlist since I'd put the songs in order. Then I'd put the iPad into presentation mode and change slides between songs using a bluetooth pedal.
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Since Summer, I've used 4Score. That means no gigs yet. So far I am very happy to have everything at my fingertips, and I do mean everything. That's what I did with my summer, put 2700+ songs in there. It was a very long and excruciating process. (28 steps per song! Multiply that out.) Toward the end I discovered a quicker way, better late than never. Many songs are in several categories; I use 45 different what I call "genres" to keep things better organized, so if we are playing blues tonight, I don't have to leaf through 2500 non-blues songs.
Right now, it sits on my music stand, just like the 3 ring binders did before. At 12.9", it is heavier than my music stand likes. I used to keep my stand low and nearly horizontal so the audience could see me, my guitar, and all nearly as unobstructed as if there was no stand in the way. With the iPad, I need to keep it closer to vertical, but can still keep it low - all the lyrics are in 14 point type. Maybe I'll need to use a heavier stand. Or perhaps for gigs, just the songs on the set list, on paper, which weighs nearly nothing. But for rehearsals, for jams and song circles, it's the nuts.
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leew and me both use IPads loaded with “OnSong” software for our live performances. There are many different holders available to use with microphone stands so that’s pretty easy.
As far as whether it’s “ professional” or not...we don’t care and nobody else seems to either. Even if they did, we still don’t care.
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First, a teleprompter isn't an iPad. Second, Springsteen has been critiqued for needing a teleprompter. Check out this column from the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...GlS_story.html
Bottom line here: it detracts from the performance if listeners are aware that you're reading the lyrics. We want to think you're singing from the heart, but that's a tough rhetoric to sell if it shows that you haven't at least memorized the lyrics. People understand the need for a set list. For decades I've taped my set list to the top of my guitar on an index card. I might even include the key, as in "Kumbaya -- C maj." But you're not going to catch me looking at an iPad to remember that the third verse is "Someone's crying, Lord." Hard to sell the tears at that point.
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I use an IPAD mini because it fits under the headstock in my guitar case. I have a Hercules guitar stand and I bought a mount from Guitar Center that was specific for my IPAD. I finished it off with a beer holder from a friend’s Harley. I play in a bluegrass club on an army base. Every now and then we get on opportunity to play at bbq etc. It sure is nice to have some previous set lists to just open up and play when that happens.
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To iPad, or not to iPad...how do you do it?
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I have seen and tried many types of holders. I use a Proline now and it’s the best I’ve seen either mounts on top of mic stand or clips on a boom.
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I use the Airturn Manos with my 12.9” Ipad Pro in a wrap around cover case that also holds my apple pencil without a problem. I have tried repeatedly to memorize an entire set-list, but can’t do it. I also like being able to pull up a song that we may not have intended to play, but just seems right at the moment. And if we need to transpose for a “guest” vocalist, so much easier.
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OnSong os the only reason I still have an iPad.
Meanwhile I think they should offer a light version without midi, lightshows or other gimmicks. Also I don‘t like their new monthly/yearly payment system. Otherwise OnSong is incredibly nice and nothing compares.
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Yes and we’re humble too. Anyway, I’m glad you are capable of remembering all the lyrics and chords to over 120 songs because that’s what our library consists of.
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