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Old 04-19-2018, 03:54 AM
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Old 04-19-2018, 05:39 AM
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Let's give credit where credit is due. That trick was used by many producers. Now, one of the craftiest of the period was Ted Templeman, who produced many acts for Warner Brothers, including the Doobie Brothers, before he got to Van Halen in 1977. All the Templeman-produced Doobie Brothers albums used that trick as a way to spread signals across the stereo sound stage. You can hear it in the intros to songs on the Doobie Brother's What Were Once Vices Are Now Habits album, such as this one:



If I remember right this technique was already covered the RIAA Recording textbook (Modern Recording Techniques 1st Edition by Robert E. Runstein, 1974) by the time it showed up on the Van Halen Album.

If you look really, really closely at the back cover of that album (below) I'm just out of the the picture at the upper right. The picture was shot on April 5,1973, at the Knoxville, TN, Civic Coliseum. It was my first rock concert.



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Let's give credit where credit is due. That trick was used by many producers. Now, one of the craftiest of the period was Ted Templeman, who produced many acts for Warner Brothers, including the Doobie Brothers, before he got to Van Halen in 1977. All the Templeman-produced Doobie Brothers albums used that trick as a way to spread signals across the stereo sound stage. You can hear it in the intros to songs on the Doobie Brother's What Were Once Vices Are Now Habits album, such as this one:



If I remember right this technique was already covered the RIAA Recording textbook (Modern Recording Techniques 1st Edition by Robert E. Runstein, 1974) by the time it showed up on the Van Halen Album.

If you look really, really closely at the back cover of that album (below) I'm just out of the the picture at the upper right. The picture was shot on April 5,1973, at the Knoxville, TN, Civic Coliseum. It was my first rock concert.



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You are 100% correct. Can't argue with you at all, and it's great for anyone who reads your post to be educated about it.
My video title is simply one that will guarantee more clicks than if I has called it 'Ted Templeman Reverb Trick'
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Thanks for the tricks and reviews GL! I subscribed.
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Thanks so much. Glad you liked it.

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You are 100% correct. Can't argue with you at all, and it's great for anyone who reads your post to be educated about it.
My video title is simply one that will guarantee more clicks than if I has called it 'Ted Templeman Reverb Trick'
Well, you know, I'm a recording engineer/producer so I'm probably just nerdy about credits!

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Yes good tip

One of several of methods for applying reverb a bit differently .

I have a suggestion , from a viewer's advocate stand point, I would suggest consider , for more clarity and visual video impact---- which is rename tracks and inputs and outputs.

In fact it is a good organizational tool to do so for personal use as well

So for example instead of the track names being Audio 1 ,2 and Aux 1 ... etc. they can read Elec. Gtr 1, Elec Gtr 2 etc. and the Aux with the verb on it could be EMT 140

This makes the mixer and edit windows visually more clear to the viewer as to what is going on Just a thought for the future
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I click the image and it takes me right back to this page??
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LOL and when I right click to copy the link it takes me here:

https://shop.magicland.it/Vendita/Pa...cland_Aprile18

Looks like fun but....
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Yes good tip

One of several of methods for applying reverb a bit differently .

I have a suggestion , from a viewer's advocate stand point, I would suggest consider , for more clarity and visual video impact---- which is rename tracks and inputs and outputs.

In fact it is a good organizational tool to do so for personal use as well

So for example instead of the track names being Audio 1 ,2 and Aux 1 ... etc. they can read Elec. Gtr 1, Elec Gtr 2 etc. and the Aux with the verb on it could be EMT 140

This makes the mixer and edit windows visually more clear to the viewer as to what is going on Just a thought for the future
kev: you are correct. that should be SOP!

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Yes good tip

One of several of methods for applying reverb a bit differently .

I have a suggestion , from a viewer's advocate stand point, I would suggest consider , for more clarity and visual video impact---- which is rename tracks and inputs and outputs.

In fact it is a good organizational tool to do so for personal use as well

So for example instead of the track names being Audio 1 ,2 and Aux 1 ... etc. they can read Elec. Gtr 1, Elec Gtr 2 etc. and the Aux with the verb on it could be EMT 140

This makes the mixer and edit windows visually more clear to the viewer as to what is going on Just a thought for the future


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Old 04-20-2018, 11:54 AM
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I click the image and it takes me right back to this page??
You are correct something must have happened to the link ,because it was working this early morning

In any case here is the video

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Old 04-27-2018, 02:52 AM
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Cannot understand what was happening with the link for some people. I just clicked the link and it brought me to the video, so I am at a loss.

Thanks Kev for posting the youtube link.
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Old 04-27-2018, 02:53 AM
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Yes good tip

One of several of methods for applying reverb a bit differently .

I have a suggestion , from a viewer's advocate stand point, I would suggest consider , for more clarity and visual video impact---- which is rename tracks and inputs and outputs.

In fact it is a good organizational tool to do so for personal use as well

So for example instead of the track names being Audio 1 ,2 and Aux 1 ... etc. they can read Elec. Gtr 1, Elec Gtr 2 etc. and the Aux with the verb on it could be EMT 140

This makes the mixer and edit windows visually more clear to the viewer as to what is going on Just a thought for the future
Thanks for the good suggestion. I will take that on board.
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