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Please educate me about moonwood tops
Hi,
What is "moonwood", and how special (or not) is it as a guitar top ? Tone, projection, volume, warmth, etc. Most ads you see that mention moonwood at least give me the impression that it's something special. Is this true or is it just marketing of a cool name for wood ? If you've played a "moonwood" guitar what are your thoughts? Thanks! |
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How do they grow moon trees without rain and oxygen?
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Marketing term.
European/Italian/Austrian/Alpine/Moon/German... it's all Picea Abies Sold the one guitar I had with a Picea Abies top (a Larrivee). Too much clarity, not enough overtones.
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My understanding is it has to do with the harvesting process. Apparently it is a centuried technique. The idea is one harvests the log during a certain phase (or phases?) of the moon when resins/sap content are at their lowest. I imagine this has to do with the moon's gravitational pull. To further minimize the resin/sap content, traditional moon spruce is harvested in winter when a tree's growing period is dormant.
Is this marketing? Yes, but it is also a (the?) traditional European method of logging, pre-dating the modern expansion of the industry. Studies have shown the moon is a statistically significant variable in moisture loss, shrinkage, and relative weight. What does this mean for acoustic guitars? Well, luthiers let wood season before building with it because seasoned wood is more stable. And the seasoning process involves the evaporation of resins/sap. So moon spruce is wood that, in theory, should act as if it has been seasoned for longer than it really has. |
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Erithon describes the idea and process and history behind it really well! Now...does it make for consistently better sounding guitars? In my experience...no...no it doesn't. I have played great guitars with moon spruce tops, and I have played very pedestrian guitars with moon spruce tops, either way, made by boutique factory/small luthier group/and solo luthiers. It is generally a VERY handsome looking top wood, as most of the moon spruce tops I have seen were rated as "Mastergrade" tops, most with very tight and even grain, no runout, a great deal of silking, and some with really gorgeous bearclaw or hazelfecht patterning in the grain. But even with the obvious stellar visual caliber, tonally, they are/were just as hit and miss, made into a guitar, as any other topwood. duff Be A Player...Not A Polisher |
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You will not see real moon spruce unless you have 3 things: secret handshake, secret code and the completion of a strict guitar ‘owner’ competency test.
The real good stuff is harvested on rare summer solstice full moons from fall down trees on the north slope of a secret Italian alp. There was a recent event in 2016 but the previous event was in 1948. The Elves leave a mark at about 7 feet up the bark. This section of wood can only be used by royalty. Luckily, my luthier’s father knew someone who knew someone and stashed a small pile of 48! My deep body custom 00 has the ‘48 moon spruce top with Gabon ebony back and sides......on a solstice, it actually has a blue glow! True! BluesKing777. |
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Rumor has it that Brian May used a guitar made of moonwood when recording "Fat Bottomed Girls." The wood was felled during a full mooning, of course.
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This is very close to what I remember reading on another thread here on Moon Spruce. I remember there was a video attachment also.
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This is very creative! Using your Nic to tell a story. 7....7 feet. King....royalty. Blue....blue glow. I enjoyed it and it put a smile on my face!
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I thought that moonwood harvesters needed to wear tinfoil hats when harvesting.
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Thanks Cool.... More info: My luthier told me a few years AFTER building my custom 00 that the moon spruce top came from the same mountainside as the wood used in Stradivarius instruments......he also said he didn’t tell anyone this anymore because people had called him rude names for being too fanciful in his marketing. I can tell you that my custom 00 deep body is a wonderful guitar, a real Excalibur, probably waiting for the fantastic playing and way more deserving rightful owner to turn up and take it! BluesKing777. |
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A lot of "marketed" things are not the good stuff, which is often why they have to be marketed. The good news is that "Moon Harvested" wood that I have seen (and used) is no worse than any other wood.
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No, what I have found makes the MOST difference when it comes to moon spruce quality is whether the guys who harvested the wood were wearing lederhosen at the time.... Austrian foresters celebrating after a successful moon spruce harvest ˚˚˚ Hope this helps! Wade Hampton "Jawohl, Mein Herr!" Miller |
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Yeah. Just buy guitars that you like and the woods won't matter.
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