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Congrats and enjoy. Thain't nothin' like a Tele!
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Ha many thanks for the heads up but really could it do any harm? Many thanks for your good wishes.
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Guild D50 Bluegrass Special (Tacoma) Cordoba C5 CE Martin Dreadnought Junior D45 Replica in open D Squier Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster Marshall AS50D Amp. Line 6 Amplifi 30 Blackstar HT1R Tube Amp DigiTech JamMan Stereo Looper Pedal Last edited by Bunny64; 11-02-2019 at 03:20 PM. |
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Well there you go. That it has good setup is a real plus and from what I hear the Classic Vibes really do a nice job with the Tele recipe.
Now all you got to do is shop for an amp, right?
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Did you mean amps?
Nah, we shouldn't go there...yet. |
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Ha thanks both just getting by on a bedroom amp til I cut my teeth. Line 6 AMPLIFi great fun
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Either I'm getting too old, or Fender has too many models (and/or too many names for the same color).
I see the discussion here about the Squire Classic Vibe 50's Telecaster, and how it's got a pine body, but the pickups are different depending on which color you get - fine - sounds interesting. I'll check it out and I go to https://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier/...#productDetail That guitar's name is "Squier Classic Vibe Telecaster '50s Electric Guitar Vintage Blonde." $399. Says it's "outfitted with a custom set of Alnico 5 single-coil pickups on the Butterscotch Blonde model and Alnico III on the Vintage Blonde." Fine - that comports with what I read in this thread. The link shows the Blonde. What's that Butterscotch look like? There's no Style selection button on that page, so I open another tab for Guitar Center and search the exact same name, but I change the "Vintage Blonde" to "Butterscotch Blonde" and get this page - https://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier/...scotch&index=1 The name on this guitar is: "Squier Classic Vibe '50s Telecaster Maple Fingerboard Electric Guitar Butterscotch Blonde." Hmmm. Instead of Classic Vibe TELECASTER '50s, this one's got a different name - Classic Vibe '50s TELECASTER. You see what they did there - they switched the "'50s" and the "TELECASTER" between the 2 very different (but similarly shaped/colored) models. Wait, the price on this one ("50's TELECASTER) is $349, not $399 ("TELECASTER 50's"). And there's a button you can click for the alternate "White Blonde" Style (the guitar above [TELECASTER 50's] had a color called "Vintage Blonde"). Let's check the specs - The cheaper one's got an alder body, not pine, and there's no pickup difference/option between the two Styles. The rest of the specs are the same between the $399 "Squier Classic Vibe Telecaster '50s Electric Guitar Vintage Blonde" and the $349 "Squier Classic Vibe '50s Telecaster Maple Fingerboard Electric Guitar Butterscotch Blonde (or "White Blonde"). What am I missing here? Fender is simultaneously selling identically shaped guitars in apparently identical colors that are priced within $50 of each other and which bear almost identical names, but which have different body and pickup specs, making them very different guitars. If someone suggested I get a Squier Classic Vibe 50s with the Alnico 3 pickups, and I hadn't done my homework, I might well have ended up with the lower priced model because I didn't know any better. What is Fender's strategy here? Alternatively, what am I missing? This comes up today because a CL ad near me lists one of these guitars - https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/m...998437828.html but I have absolutely no idea if it's the pine or alder body model, and I suspect the seller would have no clue if I had the energy to ask. What's a good way to tell these guitars apart? |
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ChrisN,
I think the older classic vibe teles were made in China and are being phased out by the newer cheaper ones produced in Indonesia. The ones with pine bodies and the Tonerider pickups are the older Chinese models. Personally I think the Chinese built CVs are better than any Indonesian made Squier teles. The Chinese factory is now producing the Fender Modern Player range instead of Squier CV guitars.
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Can't speak to Squiers (and may never be able to!), but my Indonesian-built G&L Tribute (Cort factory) came to me pretty much perfectly finished and set up. Thanks for the daylight on this one. |
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As a result we care, often a whole lot, about each of those differences you outline. In the classic days what Alnico blend was used varied from pickup to pickup on the same model. Body woods too were subject to variation with no specification. What was once random or purely logistical convivence can now be a different model. Next topic: why does this work? Because folks nowadays buy multiple guitars more often. "You know, I really need to try a pine body Tele..." and so on motivates sales. Is it confusing. You bet! I'm just a puzzled as you are. It was also sort of confusing when these things weren't specified (and in vintage buying/collecting, this esoteric knowledge retrospectively makes the "in the good old days, it was just a Telecaster" complicated). When new buyers enter the market we sometimes overwhelm them with the differences when the "Telecaster recipe" works even when loosely and fuzzily defined.
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As above, manufacture of these has moved to Indonesia, so depending on the factory, the quality could be good or otherwise. If alder is now being employed instead of pine, I would consider that a downgrade. The Chinese made were generally excellent.
* New classic vibe tele: switch from medium jumbo to tall narrow frets, tonerider-built alnico pickups to Fender-designed single coil, from pine to alder body. Last edited by Jaden; 11-06-2019 at 10:41 PM. |
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Re: The alder issue - I understand Fender did the original Esquires in pine, but they moved away to, first, Swamp Ash, then alder. Don't know the reason. Fenders USAs are available in either wood, depending on model. I've read that pine bodies are soft, and screws strip out too easily as a result. I have a USA G&L Asat Special in alder. For these reasons, it seem to me that, apart from getting the "vintage vibe" box checked, alder would be an UPgrade over pine. I have no idea, anymore. |
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Here in British Columbia, it’s been known for a long time our best wood in raw log exports has gone to large buyers across the Pacific Ocean, so if that pine has come from the Pacific Northwest, to me it looks like domestic large grain old growth on the Chinese Classic Vibes. |
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