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Old 09-06-2019, 07:56 PM
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But I'm going to even if I wear my fingers down to stubs in the process.

This is Stephen Wake playing the beginning of one of his arrangements. The strum at about 1.8 seconds isn't a strum I think, but a quick arpeggio. I don't hear any kind of delay caused by skipping over the muted 5th and 4th strings. It's just "BAM" and its done.

(CGDGCD capo 4 0xx002 {grace note open hammer on the 1st string} and then 223000)



I'm practicing 0 (thumb) and then i m a and back again just for punishment, lol
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:59 PM
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Why don't you provide a link to it? Saves the rest of us a google search.
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Old 09-06-2019, 08:15 PM
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Why don't you provide a link to it? Saves the rest of us a google search.
I provided the section with him playing it, but here's his bandcamp page,

https://stephenwake.bandcamp.com/alb...ab-pdf-booklet

The third tune in the Celtist CD "Night in That Land"
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I haven't heard Stephen Wake before and I'm really enjoying his playing so thanks for that. Good luck with mastering "Night In That Land." That's well above my level of play so I cannot offer any advice.
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Just sounds like a downward arpeggio if he is skipping a string. I just listened for a second and did not retune my
guitar so I am not sure if a string (probably 5th) was skipped. Otherwise it's a simple strum.

For a reliable and quick such five string arpeggio plant your thumb and all four fingers on their individual string
(say strings 1-2-3-4-6) and then peel them off from thumb to pinky.
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Just sounds like a downward arpeggio if he is skipping a string. I just listened for a second and did not retune my
guitar so I am not sure if a string (probably 5th) was skipped. Otherwise it's a simple strum.

For a reliable and quick such five string arpeggio plant your thumb and all four fingers on their individual string
(say strings 1-2-3-4-6) and then peel them off from thumb to pinky.
I'll try the planting, good idea.
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I haven't heard Stephen Wake before and I'm really enjoying his playing so thanks for that. Good luck with mastering "Night In That Land." That's well above my level of play so I cannot offer any advice.
He's excellent, isn't he?
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But I'm going to even if I wear my fingers down to stubs in the process.

This is Stephen Wake playing the beginning of one of his arrangements. The strum at about 1.8 seconds isn't a strum I think, but a quick arpeggio. I don't hear any kind of delay caused by skipping over the muted 5th and 4th strings. It's just "BAM" and its done.

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I'm practicing 0 (thumb) and then i m a and back again just for punishment, lol
The first chord is as you have it, but the second chord is 4xx045.
The third chord is trickier: 5550xx followed immediately by 7th fret 4th string, while others are ringing. Not a hammer-on I don't think, probably picked with the thumb:
--------------
-------------
------0----------
----5---7---------
--5------------
5-------------
p i m a p

I.e. all three chords are played the same way: p-i-m-a on the 4 strings in question (no muting required).

In open position the chords would be C, Em, Fadd9. Capo 4 makes them E, G#m, Aadd9
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Old 09-07-2019, 12:33 PM
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The first chord is as you have it, but the second chord is 4xx045.
The third chord is trickier: 5550xx followed immediately by 7th fret 4th string, while others are ringing. Not a hammer-on I don't think, probably picked with the thumb:
--------------
-------------
------0----------
----5---7---------
--5------------
5-------------
p i m a p

I.e. all three chords are played the same way: p-i-m-a on the 4 strings in question (no muting required).

In open position the chords would be C, Em, Fadd9. Capo 4 makes them E, G#m, Aadd9
For the last chord right now I'm doing a strum with hammer which sounds ok, but probably not as he plays it.

The second, 4xx045 in the notation is a 16th note 4xx04x then the eighth note 5, but it does sound like another arpeggio.

I can do backwards arpeggios faster than forward ones, I'm sure that's the same for everyone

I'll keep working at it. I have a ton of his music and I like to write my own so there will be a lot of benefits from getting more proficient at this, even though it is probably a trivial thing to accomplished players.
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For the last chord right now I'm doing a strum with hammer which sounds ok, but probably not as he plays it.

The second, 4xx045 in the notation is a 16th note 4xx04x then the eighth note 5, but it does sound like another arpeggio.
Yes, with all of them the lower 3 strings are played in succession - quickly - and the last note delayed a little.
A strum would certainly work with the last one, but personally I find the p-i-m-a-p cleaner, easier to control. I tried it with the hammer-on, it didn't sound quite the same, and I find picking it easier anyway.
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