Serrano 84 SDC - Page 3

KevWind · #31 11-21-2023, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AcousticDreams

Unfortunately I can not seem to get this to go into the play function. I press play arrow and nothing happens. Looking forward to hearing this test!

Humm working fine on my computer ???

Seems to me sample #2 and #4 are just a titch louder , I really can't evaluate ??

guitarua · #32 11-21-2023, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AcousticDreams

Unfortunately I can not seem to get this to go into the play function. I press play arrow and nothing happens. Looking forward to hearing this test!

Super weird, I sent it to a few folks and no one had that problem? Try it again?

guitarua · #33 11-21-2023, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KevWind

Humm working fine on my computer ???

Seems to me sample #2 and #4 are just a titch louder , I really can't evaluate ??

Loudness matching should be enabled, and I gain matched them pretty well in protools.

runamuck · #34 11-21-2023, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarua

Loudness matching should be enabled, and I gain matched them pretty well in protools.

There's quite a difference in levels on those tracks. I agree with Kev: I can't evaluate them

guitarua · #35 11-21-2023, 06:00 PM

Dang, ok that is not happening on my end, I will investigate and get back. Sorry y'all!

guitarua · #36 11-21-2023, 06:22 PM

Ok, tried a different upload, LMK if its still wildly diff levels? On my end they are all within .2-.4db of each other

AcousticDreams · #37 11-21-2023, 06:34 PM

Working now.
O.k I will take a stab at it. Probably make a fool of myself....but I did spend quite some time listening back and forth on each track. For what it is worth...if there is a volume difference...I felt that the sound differences between the mics and polar patterns were very obvious regardless.

Here is my impression:

1. Track 1 was the most realistic of how I would hope a good Braz D28 would sound. I heard the sounds of my beloved 60's & 70's hit records with D28's. Bright, open & lots of dynamic range. A high end Bite...which some 84's are known for. ( of course back in the day...they did EQ them as well)
And...it was so open, and because of the bite, it caught every mistake made in playing the single notes. ( not trying to be critical...I can tell you are a very good player! but this mic, because it was brighter/ more open / more dynamic range...presented the single notes and any mistakes and or harshness played)

Tracks 2 & 3 I felt the dynamic range was restricted. Harmonics suppressed, and many of the notes muffled. Which...aided the single note playing as it suppressed any harshness in playing. Regardless...I did not like how either of these represented the guitar. Also felt like these two tracks had some distortion.

Track 4 was more open than 2 & 3... and more realistic/ but I still felt it was still slightly suppressed in dynamic range. Did not have the bite of track 1. Which could be a bad or good thing depending on what you want. It seemed to have a little bit more low end boom than 2 & 3...which leads me to think it was a cardiod pattern.

So I like the sound of track 1 & 4 best.

1 seemingly had the most dynamic range/ the most frequency capture...or it was the high end bite that was fooling me & causing the single notes to jump out.

4 was smoother & reasonably realistic representation...possibly from dynamic range restriction or because...in actuality...it really is smoother. But the High end still felt a bit restricted.

Thank you for providing this very fun mic & capsule comparison. It will be so interesting to find out the results.

P.S I made my evaluation before your new upload.

guitarua · #38 11-22-2023, 10:23 AM

Thanks for taking the time, and yes, playing was subpar on my end

Happy to PM you the results in the interest of keeping it blind for now.

jim1960 · #39 11-22-2023, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by guitarua

Ok, tried a different upload, LMK if its still wildly diff levels? On my end they are all within .2-.4db of each other

2 and 4 are still quite a bit louder than 1 and 3. #1 is especially quiet compared to the rest.

In case it's not clear to others why this is important... our ears are easily tricked by volume and, in the vast majority of cases, people will perceive that which is loudest as sounding best and it doesn't take much of a difference for that to happen. That's why it's so important when doing comparisons to get the levels even.

AcousticDreams · #40 11-23-2023, 11:43 AM

I am hoping more people will give a listening try to guitarua's excellent mic test comparison.

Doug Young's microphone, preamps and other tests have successfully helped me decide on which gear to invest in. And Jim1960 has posted several test videos that have also been instrumental in helping me make the right decisions. Very thankful to Doug and Jim for all of their efforts.

I am sure most of us would love to make the right investment the first time. Of course, that is not always the case. But tests like these at least give us an insight as to what might be right for us.