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I think Version 1 was a center hole...
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The X20-12 strings remain the same as they have been with only the standard 6 strings having the new changes.
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V1, V2, V3 is not an "official" Emerald term.... I may have started this nomenclature just to be more precise here. Or perhaps I just jumped on the bandwagon.
Version 1 is the older center sound hole model. Version 2 replaced that a few years ago and has the forward-facing sound hole. Version 3 was introduced in the summer of 2018, IIRC. Version 3 of the X7's are a little larger than the older ones (more like the body size of the X10) and has the upward facing sound hole like all the other Emerald models. People have reported here that V3 sounds bigger than V2, almost as full as an X20. We only have the V2 because that is the size that my wife likes, and she sees no need to upgrade from her current guitars. |
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Incoming!
My new X20 Black 5955 (one marked sold on Emerald’s site) is scheduled for UPS delivery tomorrow!
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Probably? I have an old (2010) X7 with a round soundhole in the center.
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Yay! But this news needs a thread of its own....
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I recall they continued to produce and offer both the center and the off-set on their website at the same time for a period, but later, the center hole was removed and produced only by special request for fold dedicated to center holes. Guessing that once it was removed--there was no reason to designate the off-set version with "OS" anymore--so it was shortened to just X7. Ordering the center hole by special request may still be possible for all I know, but for the most part, people liked the off-set version so much the center hole has just faded away. The latest version of the X7 is actually a fairly radical step forward compared to v1 & v2. Those two sounded very much the same. But the newest version has significant changes in the sound hole, body size, construction, etc. I would expect I would like current version more than either v1 or v2 from years past. |
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Stay tuned...I'll do a proper NGD post with pics.
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I'm excited for you and look forward to your review!
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woohoo, congrats!
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Thanks for that commentary, Ray. There aren't many who have had both X7 versions in hand at the same time. And also for the comment for the X7 V3 versus X20 comment too. I was likely recalling your previous comments, but could not remember the source. We can only directly compare the X7 V2 and my X20 directly. X7 sounds good on its own, but not as rich and strong as the X20. No real surprise there - comparing the parlor sized X7 to a GA sized X20.
These days 95% of my playing is indoors and solo, or with my wife playing her flute too. The rest is outdoor backyard jamming at social distance as long as our summer weather holds up. Either way, it has been a long time since I plugged in. Player perspective counts for a lot...... |
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That whole experience really opened my eyes, (or more precisely, ears) to the difference that offset soundhole made. But then, oddly, I added a Martin 000-15SM and it sounded just as loud from my players perspective as the V3 and then I got a CEO-7, which is classified as an 00, and it's as loud or louder than either. Both Martins having just a front facing soundhole. I couldn't figure that one out at all. And then I ended up selling all but the CEO-7, basically for a number of ergonomic reasons, not because I didn't like the sound of the other two as much - I loved the sound of all three. -Ray
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Ray, your experiment just points out how difficult it is to quantify "perceptible loudness". Human subjective judgement is different than what a sound meter will display (I do this for a living). The best we can do is A-weighted decibels or dBA. Other rating schemes exist but are way too cumbersome - even I cannot use them effectively after 37 years in the business. I have several acoustics textbooks on my desk, each of which has multiple chapters on loudness ratings of varying complexity. Ears have a very complicated computer backing them up, whereas a sound meter is pretty stupid.
The sloped sound hole of the Emeralds indeed directs more sound up toward the listener essentially providing a monitor for the player. But sound radiation from a guitar is actually pretty complex. The sound does not exclusively come out of the "sound hole". That hole exists primarily as a port to affect the Helmholtz frequency and fill out the lower end, like for a bass-reflex speaker cabinet. There is a brand of acoustic guitar out there (the name escapes me) that does not even have a sound hole or a side sound port. |
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